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7 stars versus Diamond

The benefits for 7* over Diamond are not worth "going for it" unless you
happen to be within a few thousand or so extra points to get to that next level.

Benefits are Once a year trip to any Harrah's casino that includes $500 for
food or spa, airfare for 2, and hotel room for at least 3 nights. A
"birthday" or other celebratory dinner of up to $500 (you can invite as many people
as you want, so could, for example take 10 people to a $50 dinner). Special
lines for restaurants, total rewards, drawings, special events -- the line
advantage is a major one if you go to events that have long lines, for example
at some sweepstakes drawings or tournament sign-ins. A gift once a year - a
choice of about 20 items such as a digital camera or DVD player, etc., with
values around $100-200.

You may also get invites on occasion to special "7 Star Events." I had one
from New Orleans for a slot tournament. One year I had a Caesars Palace
invite for a 7 Star dinner. As far as I can see, these invites are fairly
random, and come only a couple of times a year. You might get a special 7 Star
gift during such events as well - I received a decanter and wine glasses from
Caesars.

As for offers, as far as I can see, they are otherwise no better or worse
than you can get as Diamond. Offers depend on your play level in terms of ADT
- Adjusted Daily Theoretical. While I had far more points than my husband
(I'm 7*, he is Diamond), his offers were consistently better than mine because
he had a higher ADT, because he played only a couple of times at a high
rate, while I played far more, but some trips were at a lower ADT, giving him a
higher ADT than me. As a result, he would get offers for say $1200 Visa
card, while mine were for $750. We are still having this happen - he just got a
$800 cash offer from Caesars, I got $600. Although I am by far the bigger
total player (80,000 base points now compared to his 12,000), with Harrah's
crazy system of using a 12-month ADT, he is getting the better offers.

Some places may send you offers based on your play at 1 particular property
(such as offers from New Orleans, it seems), while others base their offers on
play at all parties within a certain geographic area (such as Las Vegas), or
base it on your play over the entire U.S. In addition, it seems some
offers are tied to your "primary" casino. Mine is Caesars, so as a result I get
lots of Caesars offers, but not offers at other Vegas casinos such as Paris
where I also play, except for what I consider "generalized" Vegas offers, which
allow you to choose any of the Vegas properties to stay at.

7* in Atlantic City can use their very nice 7* Lounge. Unfortunately the
one is Vegas has closed.

An unwritten benefit is that sometimes you get extra good service from
servers and Total Reward personnel when they see you are 7* - occasionally even
obsequious service! I see absolutely no better service from hosts though,
who unfortunately are generally miserable at many Harrah's properties. The
best hosts seem to be in New Orleans. The worst are in Las Vegas - perhaps
because they are overworked or undertrained. It is rare to find a good Las Vegas
Harrah's property host - and if you do, hang onto them!

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I so agree with everything you just wrote. Earlier this year I became a 7* player, and to this date see no reason for me to try for this before.

And if you know a good Caesar host, let me know. I just don't care for mine - can't ever seem to get him to respond to me, and he never gets me any of the extras hosts at other casinos have always gotten me. And Caesar is where I play the most.

Steve Roy at Harrah's in Vegas is absolutely wonderful - but unfortunately, I don't play or stay there very often anymore.

And I really don't understand the free trip. They are always sending me offers to fly me there, put me up for as many days as I want. So the free trip would only work if I could fly someone else and take their jet instead.

Thanks for the info. I have asked so many people in the last four months what to expect of what the difference is, and I can't seem to get any decent response.

Becky

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--- On Fri, 6/6/08, misscraps@aol.com <misscraps@aol.com> wrote:
From: misscraps@aol.com <misscraps@aol.com>
Subject: [vpFREE] 7 stars versus Diamond
To: vpFREE@yahoogroups.com
Date: Friday, June 6, 2008, 7:50 PM
    
The benefits for 7* over Diamond are not worth "going for it" unless you
happen to be within a few thousand or so extra points to get to that next level...

Becca Kirk wrote:

I so agree with everything you just wrote. Earlier this year I became
a 7* player, and to this date see no reason for me to try for this
before.

And I really don't understand the free trip. They are always sending
me offers to fly me there, put me up for as many days as I want. So
the free trip would only work if I could fly someone else and take
their jet instead.

I largely agree with Miss Craps who wrote, "The benefits for 7* over
Diamond are not worth "going for it" unless you happen to be within a
few thousand or so extra points to get to that next level." I feel
similarly re Diamond.

However, I'm inclined to widen that margin from a "few thousand",
suggesting that if your normal play level runs 70K+ points it can be
worth the stretch to hit the 100K qualification.

No doubt, the free trip is of somewhat limited value if you consider a
destination toward which you have junket access (or otherwise qualify
for airfare reimbursement). Still, factor in the $500 expense
allowance - it can add a splurge to your normal trip ... whether in
the form of grander dining or spa pampering.

But the 7* annual trip opens up free travel to destinations to which
you don't usually receive junket offers. Some are willing to accept
the "ADT" penalty from a zero or no play trip to truly eke out a
holiday in a location they don't otherwise visit (e.g. New Orleans,
Phoenix, San Diego) and roam the area freely.

Aside from the trip benefit, don't overlook the celebratory dinner
benefit. With a $500 allowance, it's an opportunity to have a knock
out intimate time for you and a loved one at one of the more
exceptional LV casino restaurants (or elsewhere) - think anniversary,
engagement proposal, etc ... or show off a bit with a couple of
friends - pull off a second comped room via a host favor or
companion's TR a/c and you can really wow! them :wink:

- Harry