Is Mohegan getting cheap. No gas card, no money, nada... Personally I
would prefer to recieve something than get nothing. What does everyone
else think. Have a great day. Ciao Don 
50K Sagamore Cash Drawing Sat October 6th
--- In vpFREE_NewEngland@yahoogroups.com, "theyank777"
<theyank777@...> wrote:
Is Mohegan getting cheap. No gas card, no money, nada... Personally I
would prefer to recieve something than get nothing. What does everyone
else think. Have a great day. Ciao Don
I agree 100%. A 1-1000 chance of winning $10k doesn't entice me into
taking a trip whereas a $75 in points to spend does.
I think the best approach is respond to the offers you like and neglect
the others. Their marketing software should pick up these trends and
result in more of the offers you want.
--- In vpFREE_NewEngland@yahoogroups.com, "caribou_123"
<caribou123@...> wrote:
--- In vpFREE_NewEngland@yahoogroups.com, "theyank777"
<theyank777@> wrote:
>
> Is Mohegan getting cheap. No gas card, no money, nada...
Personally I
> would prefer to recieve something than get nothing. What does
everyone
> else think. Have a great day. Ciao Don
>I agree 100%. A 1-1000 chance of winning $10k doesn't entice me
into
taking a trip whereas a $75 in points to spend does.
I think the best approach is respond to the offers you like and
neglect
the others. Their marketing software should pick up these trends
and
result in more of the offers you want.
Ditto here. I mean, WTF-----first they take away the birthday
dinners, then the wedding anniversary perks, then like Don said. What
next? Charging admittance to the 3 lounges? No more free rooms? Maybe
take out the FP PKM?
Excuse the rant--- I dropped $2K this past Friday----Ughhh.
路路路
I'd rather the 1 in 1000 for $50K. That's got an E.V. of $50 which,
in my opinion, is better than 75 points. Its the law of big numbers
and long term results. Off to RENO, Thursday on semi-junket from
Harrah's. Wife is Diamond. Fly's from Providence. Airfare/nights at
choice of Tahoe or Reno Harrah's property. We got a car and staying
in Harrah's RENO. BACK Monday night. That's sweet!
(See message 79049 on motherboard about changes/long term gambling.)
David in Boston
--- In vpFREE_NewEngland@yahoogroups.com, "caribou_123"
<caribou123@...> wrote:
--- In vpFREE_NewEngland@yahoogroups.com, "theyank777"
<theyank777@> wrote:
>
> Is Mohegan getting cheap. No gas card, no money, nada...
Personally I
> would prefer to recieve something than get nothing. What does
everyone
> else think. Have a great day. Ciao Don
>I agree 100%. A 1-1000 chance of winning $10k doesn't entice me
into
taking a trip whereas a $75 in points to spend does.
I think the best approach is respond to the offers you like and
neglect
the others. Their marketing software should pick up these trends
and
路路路
result in more of the offers you want.
I used the 1-1000 as a estimate guess. Anyone have any idea how many
invites are normally accepted?
In your preference for the $50 EV, did you factor in the 1099 and the
tax liability (which can't be offset with gambling losses) that will
follow for any drawing winnings of over $600 from that casino in a
calendar year? A pretax EV of $50 would probably be somewhere around
an after tax EV of $35.
路路路
--- In vpFREE_NewEngland@yahoogroups.com, "haaljo" <haaljo@...> wrote:
I'd rather the 1 in 1000 for $50K. That's got an E.V. of $50 which,
in my opinion, is better than 75 points. Its the law of big numbers
and long term results. Off to RENO, Thursday on semi-junket from
Harrah's. Wife is Diamond. Fly's from Providence. Airfare/nights at
choice of Tahoe or Reno Harrah's property. We got a car and staying
in Harrah's RENO. BACK Monday night. That's sweet!(See message 79049 on motherboard about changes/long term gambling.)
David in Boston--- In vpFREE_NewEngland@yahoogroups.com, "caribou_123"
<caribou123@> wrote:
>
> --- In vpFREE_NewEngland@yahoogroups.com, "theyank777"
> <theyank777@> wrote:
> >
> > Is Mohegan getting cheap. No gas card, no money, nada...
Personally I
> > would prefer to recieve something than get nothing. What does
everyone
> > else think. Have a great day. Ciao Don
> >
>
> I agree 100%. A 1-1000 chance of winning $10k doesn't entice me
into
> taking a trip whereas a $75 in points to spend does.
>
> I think the best approach is respond to the offers you like and
neglect
> the others. Their marketing software should pick up these trends
and
> result in more of the offers you want.
>
Caribou,
Your right on the tax consquences.
You note 1099 not offsetable. I remember discussion on motherboard
that 1099s recvd as a result of gambling (invite to drawings) is
offsetable.
That being said, there will be tax consequences both at Federal and
State level. Significant tax consequences. Hmmmmmmmm
David in Boston
--- In vpFREE_NewEngland@yahoogroups.com, "caribou_123"
<caribou123@...> wrote:
>
>I used the 1-1000 as a estimate guess. Anyone have any idea how
many
invites are normally accepted?
In your preference for the $50 EV, did you factor in the 1099 and
the
tax liability (which can't be offset with gambling losses) that
will
follow for any drawing winnings of over $600 from that casino in a
calendar year? A pretax EV of $50 would probably be somewhere
around
路路路
--- In vpFREE_NewEngland@yahoogroups.com, "haaljo" <haaljo@> wrote:
an after tax EV of $35.
--- In vpFREE_NewEngland@yahoogroups.com, "caribou_123"
<caribou123@...> wrote:
>
> I'd rather the 1 in 1000 for $50K. That's got an E.V. of $50
which,
> in my opinion, is better than 75 points. Its the law of big
numbers
and long term results.
> > > --- In vpFREE_NewEngland@yahoogroups.com, "theyank777"
> > <theyank777@> wrote:
> > >
> > > Is Mohegan getting cheap. No gas card, no money, nada...
> Personally I
> > > would prefer to recieve something than get nothing. What
does
> everyone
> > > else think.
I used the 1-1000 as a estimate guess. Anyone have any idea how
many
invites are normally accepted?
The cabaret theatre was filled with standees and all seats taken yet
only 2 or 3 of the 10 names drawn were present. I would estimate
there were 2000 or so entries yielding a pre-tax EV of $25. The food
was some appetizers taken aound by waiters which was inadaquate. The
lounges ended up being mobbed. On the plus side they gave each
enterant 75 points which was unexpected. If they had informed us of
the 75 points the entry pool would have been even greater I'll
speculate.
David
路路路
--- In vpFREE_NewEngland@yahoogroups.com, "haaljo" <haaljo@> wrote:
I just got back from the Sachem drawing. Everyone
received 200 pts. There wasn't any mention of this in
the invite.
I didn't win anything but did hit my first Royal in
almost 2 years.
I also found (1) $5 9/6 DDB machine. If you're
interested e-mail me privately.
Joel
路路路
--- d_richheimer <d_richheimer@yahoo.com> wrote:
--- In vpFREE_NewEngland@yahoogroups.com,
"caribou_123"
<caribou123@...> wrote:
>
> --- In vpFREE_NewEngland@yahoogroups.com, "haaljo"
<haaljo@> wrote:
> >
> > I'd rather the 1 in 1000 for $50K. That's got an
E.V. of $50
which,
> > in my opinion, is better than 75 points. Its the
law of big
numbers
and long term results.> > > > --- In vpFREE_NewEngland@yahoogroups.com,
"theyank777"
> > > <theyank777@> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Is Mohegan getting cheap. No gas card, no
money, nada...
> > Personally I
> > > > would prefer to recieve something than get
nothing. What
does
> > everyone
> > > > else think.> I used the 1-1000 as a estimate guess. Anyone
have any idea how
many
> invites are normally accepted?The cabaret theatre was filled with standees and all
seats taken yet
only 2 or 3 of the 10 names drawn were present. I
would estimate
there were 2000 or so entries yielding a pre-tax EV
of $25. The food
was some appetizers taken aound by waiters which was
inadaquate. The
lounges ended up being mobbed. On the plus side they
gave each
enterant 75 points which was unexpected. If they had
informed us of
the 75 points the entry pool would have been even
greater I'll
speculate.David
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--- Hi Joel,
Dori and I were there also. We didn't win anything at the drawing
either. The cabaret was only about 1/2 full so it was worth the ride
especially when Dori was playing DB and the machine was sticking so
she banged it and accidently played 25 coins. She got two aces on the
deal and then got two more on the draw. This is the third time this
year she has done that and all three times she hit quads. She later
hit 4 Ducks and 5OAk on Joker. All in all a good day as I held my own.
Mel
路路路
In vpFREE_NewEngland@yahoogroups.com, Joel Fink <joel0457@...> wrote:
I just got back from the Sachem drawing. Everyone
received 200 pts. There wasn't any mention of this in
the invite.I didn't win anything but did hit my first Royal in
almost 2 years.I also found (1) $5 9/6 DDB machine. If you're
interested e-mail me privately.Joel
--- d_richheimer <d_richheimer@...> wrote:
> --- In vpFREE_NewEngland@yahoogroups.com,
> "caribou_123"
> <caribou123@> wrote:
> >
> > --- In vpFREE_NewEngland@yahoogroups.com, "haaljo"
> <haaljo@> wrote:
> > >
> > > I'd rather the 1 in 1000 for $50K. That's got an
> E.V. of $50
> which,
> > > in my opinion, is better than 75 points. Its the
> law of big
> numbers
> and long term results.
>
> > > > > --- In vpFREE_NewEngland@yahoogroups.com,
> "theyank777"
> > > > <theyank777@> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Is Mohegan getting cheap. No gas card, no
> money, nada...
> > > Personally I
> > > > > would prefer to recieve something than get
> nothing. What
> does
> > > everyone
> > > > > else think.
>
>
> > I used the 1-1000 as a estimate guess. Anyone
> have any idea how
> many
> > invites are normally accepted?
>
>
> The cabaret theatre was filled with standees and all
> seats taken yet
> only 2 or 3 of the 10 names drawn were present. I
> would estimate
> there were 2000 or so entries yielding a pre-tax EV
> of $25. The food
> was some appetizers taken aound by waiters which was
> inadaquate. The
> lounges ended up being mobbed. On the plus side they
> gave each
> enterant 75 points which was unexpected. If they had
> informed us of
> the 75 points the entry pool would have been even
> greater I'll
> speculate.
>
> David
>
>
______________________________________________________________________
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Hi Mel,
I agree it wasn't very crowded but I still didn't win.
The 200 pts was nice. I've been booking all of my flts
through MS travel. Fla a few weeks ago, Vegas in Oct
and Dec and Fla in Feb. It's a pretty good use of
points.
Anyway, we'll be there for the Celtics, Fogerty, the
Cirque shows and Howie Mandell.
Anyway it was nice hitting my first royal in almost
two years.
See you there.
Joel
路路路
--- mel3dmdmsncom <mel3dmd@yahoo.com> wrote:
--- Hi Joel,
Dori and I were there also. We didn't win anything
at the drawing
either. The cabaret was only about 1/2 full so it
was worth the ride
especially when Dori was playing DB and the machine
was sticking so
she banged it and accidently played 25 coins. She
got two aces on the
deal and then got two more on the draw. This is the
third time this
year she has done that and all three times she hit
quads. She later
hit 4 Ducks and 5OAk on Joker. All in all a good day
as I held my own.Mel
In vpFREE_NewEngland@yahoogroups.com, Joel Fink
<joel0457@...> wrote:
>
> I just got back from the Sachem drawing. Everyone
> received 200 pts. There wasn't any mention of this
in
> the invite.
>
> I didn't win anything but did hit my first Royal
in
> almost 2 years.
>
> I also found (1) $5 9/6 DDB machine. If you're
> interested e-mail me privately.
>
> Joel
>
>
> --- d_richheimer <d_richheimer@...> wrote:
>
> > --- In vpFREE_NewEngland@yahoogroups.com,
> > "caribou_123"
> > <caribou123@> wrote:
> > >
> > > --- In vpFREE_NewEngland@yahoogroups.com,
"haaljo"
> > <haaljo@> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > I'd rather the 1 in 1000 for $50K. That's
got an
> > E.V. of $50
> > which,
> > > > in my opinion, is better than 75 points. Its
the
> > law of big
> > numbers
> > and long term results.
> >
> > > > > > --- In
vpFREE_NewEngland@yahoogroups.com,
> > "theyank777"
> > > > > <theyank777@> wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Is Mohegan getting cheap. No gas card,
no
> > money, nada...
> > > > Personally I
> > > > > > would prefer to recieve something than
get
> > nothing. What
> > does
> > > > everyone
> > > > > > else think.
> >
> >
> > > I used the 1-1000 as a estimate guess. Anyone
> > have any idea how
> > many
> > > invites are normally accepted?
> >
> >
> > The cabaret theatre was filled with standees and
all
> > seats taken yet
> > only 2 or 3 of the 10 names drawn were present.
I
> > would estimate
> > there were 2000 or so entries yielding a pre-tax
EV
> > of $25. The food
> > was some appetizers taken aound by waiters which
was
> > inadaquate. The
> > lounges ended up being mobbed. On the plus side
they
> > gave each
> > enterant 75 points which was unexpected. If they
had
> > informed us of
> > the 75 points the entry pool would have been
even
> > greater I'll
> > speculate.
> >
> > David
> >
> >
>
>
>
______________________________________________________________________
______________
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reality with
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>
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---Hi Joel,
Congrads on the Royal. We will be down for Fogerty, Larry the Cable
Guy and John Mellencamp.
See you there.
Mel
路路路
In vpFREE_NewEngland@yahoogroups.com, Joel Fink <joel0457@...> wrote:
Hi Mel,
I agree it wasn't very crowded but I still didn't win.
The 200 pts was nice. I've been booking all of my flts
through MS travel. Fla a few weeks ago, Vegas in Oct
and Dec and Fla in Feb. It's a pretty good use of
points.Anyway, we'll be there for the Celtics, Fogerty, the
Cirque shows and Howie Mandell.Anyway it was nice hitting my first royal in almost
two years.See you there.
Joel
--- mel3dmdmsncom <mel3dmd@...> wrote:
> --- Hi Joel,
> Dori and I were there also. We didn't win anything
> at the drawing
> either. The cabaret was only about 1/2 full so it
> was worth the ride
> especially when Dori was playing DB and the machine
> was sticking so
> she banged it and accidently played 25 coins. She
> got two aces on the
> deal and then got two more on the draw. This is the
> third time this
> year she has done that and all three times she hit
> quads. She later
> hit 4 Ducks and 5OAk on Joker. All in all a good day
> as I held my own.
>
> Mel
>
>
>
> In vpFREE_NewEngland@yahoogroups.com, Joel Fink
> <joel0457@> wrote:
> >
> > I just got back from the Sachem drawing. Everyone
> > received 200 pts. There wasn't any mention of this
> in
> > the invite.
> >
> > I didn't win anything but did hit my first Royal
> in
> > almost 2 years.
> >
> > I also found (1) $5 9/6 DDB machine. If you're
> > interested e-mail me privately.
> >
> > Joel
> >
> >
> > --- d_richheimer <d_richheimer@> wrote:
> >
> > > --- In vpFREE_NewEngland@yahoogroups.com,
> > > "caribou_123"
> > > <caribou123@> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > --- In vpFREE_NewEngland@yahoogroups.com,
> "haaljo"
> > > <haaljo@> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > I'd rather the 1 in 1000 for $50K. That's
> got an
> > > E.V. of $50
> > > which,
> > > > > in my opinion, is better than 75 points. Its
> the
> > > law of big
> > > numbers
> > > and long term results.
> > >
> > > > > > > --- In
> vpFREE_NewEngland@yahoogroups.com,
> > > "theyank777"
> > > > > > <theyank777@> wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Is Mohegan getting cheap. No gas card,
> no
> > > money, nada...
> > > > > Personally I
> > > > > > > would prefer to recieve something than
> get
> > > nothing. What
> > > does
> > > > > everyone
> > > > > > > else think.
> > >
> > >
> > > > I used the 1-1000 as a estimate guess. Anyone
> > > have any idea how
> > > many
> > > > invites are normally accepted?
> > >
> > >
> > > The cabaret theatre was filled with standees and
> all
> > > seats taken yet
> > > only 2 or 3 of the 10 names drawn were present.
> I
> > > would estimate
> > > there were 2000 or so entries yielding a pre-tax
> EV
> > > of $25. The food
> > > was some appetizers taken aound by waiters which
> was
> > > inadaquate. The
> > > lounges ended up being mobbed. On the plus side
> they
> > > gave each
> > > enterant 75 points which was unexpected. If they
> had
> > > informed us of
> > > the 75 points the entry pool would have been
> even
> > > greater I'll
> > > speculate.
> > >
> > > David
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> >
>
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> reality with
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> >
>
>
>
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--- In vpFREE_NewEngland@yahoogroups.com, Joel Fink <joel0457@...>
wrote:
Hi Mel,
I agree it wasn't very crowded but I still didn't win.
The 200 pts was nice. I've been booking all of my flts
through MS travel. Fla a few weeks ago, Vegas in Oct
and Dec and Fla in Feb. It's a pretty good use of
points.
Could you please tell me details in re booking travel through MS ?
Larry F.
I've booked flts, cars and hotel rooms through MS
travel.
Find the flt you want and it is 1.6 pts per $1 plus a
$50 fee.
For cars it is only Avis and Budget that they can
prepay.
路路路
--- lfcmja2000 <lfcmja@aol.com> wrote:
--- In vpFREE_NewEngland@yahoogroups.com, Joel Fink
<joel0457@...>
wrote:
>
> Hi Mel,
>
> I agree it wasn't very crowded but I still didn't
win.
> The 200 pts was nice. I've been booking all of my
flts
> through MS travel. Fla a few weeks ago, Vegas in
Oct
> and Dec and Fla in Feb. It's a pretty good use of
> points.Could you please tell me details in re booking
travel through MS ?Larry F.
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--- In vpFREE_NewEngland@yahoogroups.com, Joel Fink <joel0457@...>
wrote:
I've booked flts, cars and hotel rooms through MS
travel.
Find the flt you want and it is 1.6 pts per $1 plus a
$50 fee.
For cars it is only Avis and Budget that they can
prepay.
Thanks for the info.
聽聽Larry F.