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50% loss rebate in Pennsylvania casino

New from Mount Airy Casino in the month of September:

"New Player's Club Members, it's time to get paid! Play during the month of September and receive 50% of your losses back up to $50,000!

You must have at least 5 hours of rated play and at least $500 of rated slot loss. Your reimbursement offer will be sent in the following month and valid through 10 offers over a 5 week period.

For New Player's Club members that sign up in the month of September"

http://mountairycasino.com/play/casino/promotions/

According to vpfree2, they have

99.54% JoB: $1, $2, $5, $10
99.17% BP: $1, $2, $5, $10
99.11% DB: $1, $2, $5, $10
99.07% Joker Poker Royal Flush: 25¢, 50¢
98.98% DDB: $1, $2, $5, $10
98.91% LV Airport/Illinois Deuces: $1, $2, $5, $10

It's an interesting promotion especially this line in the details:

"You must have at least 5 hours of rated play and at least $500 of rated slot loss."

I would not be surprised if the best video poker had a zero theoretical assigned thus a player would never have a rated slot loss. If playing video poker, I would want to test the waters on this first.

To: vpFREE@yahoogroups.com
From: BLITZace255@Hotmail.com
Date: Tue, 27 Aug 2013 01:49:33 +0000
Subject: [vpFREE] 50% loss rebate in Pennsylvania casino

New from Mount Airy Casino in the month of September:

"New Player's Club Members, it's time to get paid! Play during the month of September and receive 50% of your losses back up to $50,000!

You must have at least 5 hours of rated play and at least $500 of rated slot loss. Your reimbursement offer will be sent in the following month and valid through 10 offers over a 5 week period.

For New Player's Club members that sign up in the month of September"

http://mountairycasino.com/play/casino/promotions/

According to vpfree2, they have

99.54% JoB: $1, $2, $5, $10
99.17% BP: $1, $2, $5, $10
99.11% DB: $1, $2, $5, $10
99.07% Joker Poker Royal Flush: 25¢, 50¢
98.98% DDB: $1, $2, $5, $10
98.91% LV Airport/Illinois Deuces: $1, $2, $5, $10

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Any details on what games are included whether it's just slots or video poker too?

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--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "blitzace255" <BLITZace255@...> wrote:

New from Mount Airy Casino in the month of September:

"New Player's Club Members, it's time to get paid! Play during the month of September and receive 50% of your losses back up to $50,000!

You must have at least 5 hours of rated play and at least $500 of rated slot loss. Your reimbursement offer will be sent in the following month and valid through 10 offers over a 5 week period.

For New Player's Club members that sign up in the month of September"

http://mountairycasino.com/play/casino/promotions/

According to vpfree2, they have

99.54% JoB: $1, $2, $5, $10
99.17% BP: $1, $2, $5, $10
99.11% DB: $1, $2, $5, $10
99.07% Joker Poker Royal Flush: 25¢, 50¢
98.98% DDB: $1, $2, $5, $10
98.91% LV Airport/Illinois Deuces: $1, $2, $5, $10

kelso, I find it reasonably safe to assume that &quot;rated loss&quot; means &quot;tracked loss&quot;; not &quot;theoretical loss&quot;. --- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, &lt;vpplayer88@...&gt; wrote: Any details on what games are included whether it&#39;s just slots or video poker too?

--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com , &quot;blitzace255&quot; &lt;BLITZace255@...&gt; wrote:
&gt;
&gt; New from Mount Airy Casino in the month of September:
&gt;
&gt;
&gt; &quot;New Player&#39;s Club Members, it&#39;s time to get paid! Play during the month of September and receive 50% of your losses back up to $50,000!
&gt;
&gt; You must have at least 5 hours of rated play and at least $500 of rated slot loss. Your reimbursement offer will be sent in the following month and valid through 10 offers over a 5 week period.
&gt;
&gt; For New Player&#39;s Club members that sign up in the month of September&quot;
&gt;
&gt; http://mountairycasino.com/play/casino/promotions/
&gt;
&gt;
&gt;
&gt; According to vpfree2, they have
&gt;
&gt; 99.54% JoB: $1, $2, $5, $10
&gt; 99.17% BP: $1, $2, $5, $10
&gt; 99.11% DB: $1, $2, $5, $10
&gt; 99.07% Joker Poker Royal Flush: 25¢, 50¢
&gt; 98.98% DDB: $1, $2, $5, $10
&gt; 98.91% LV Airport/Illinois Deuces: $1, $2, $5, $10
&gt;

I want to agree with Harry's take, but the promo is so poorly written that I'm not sure.

It appears that sometime today Mt. Airy added "Excludes poker" to the last line of the promo.

The wording is open to several interpretations. "rated play" might indicate that table games are in the mix, especially since the final paragraph of the promo states:

"For New Player's Club members that sign up in the month of September. Excludes Poker".

"Excludes Poker" suggests that everything else (blackjack, craps, roulette) is okay. But what if "Excludes Poker" means 'excludes video poker"!

Also, the line, "You must have at least 5 hours of rated play and at least $500 of rated slot loss" seems to indicate you need BOTH. Which in turn suggests that table game losses would not be allowed unless there was also a $500 slot loss.

--Dunbar

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--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, <harry.porter@...> wrote:

kelso, I find it reasonably safe to assume that "rated loss" means "tracked loss"; not "theoretical loss". --- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, vpplayer88@ wrote: Any details on what games are included whether it's just slots or video poker too?

--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com , "blitzace255" BLITZace255@ wrote:
>
> New from Mount Airy Casino in the month of September:
>
>
> "New Player's Club Members, it's time to get paid! Play during the month of September and receive 50% of your losses back up to $50,000!
>
> You must have at least 5 hours of rated play and at least $500 of rated slot loss. Your reimbursement offer will be sent in the following month and valid through 10 offers over a 5 week period.
>
> For New Player's Club members that sign up in the month of September"
>
> http://mountairycasino.com/play/casino/promotions/
>
>
>
> According to vpfree2, they have
>
> 99.54% JoB: $1, $2, $5, $10
> 99.17% BP: $1, $2, $5, $10
> 99.11% DB: $1, $2, $5, $10
> 99.07% Joker Poker Royal Flush: 25¢, 50¢
> 98.98% DDB: $1, $2, $5, $10
> 98.91% LV Airport/Illinois Deuces: $1, $2, $5, $10
>

Ever since I've become intrigued by the advantage gambling community I have noticed that many casinos don't seem to have a clue...

Promotions are poorly worded, do not contain enough information, change mid-stream...

Booth workers don't know the current promotions, give incorrect information, do not properly honor promotions...

...unless, of course, they are doing this on purpose to take advantage of players or otherwise get them in the door. Personally, though, I am most likely to come into a casino if the pay tables are great and the promotions are good to the point of having an advantage or something close to it. Apparently they want nothing to do with APs or aspiring APs who would be willing to risk a decent-sized bankroll to play

or they are just incompetent.

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--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "dunbar_dra" <h_dunbar@...> wrote:

I want to agree with Harry's take, but the promo is so poorly written that I'm not sure.

It appears that sometime today Mt. Airy added "Excludes poker" to the last line of the promo.

The wording is open to several interpretations. "rated play" might indicate that table games are in the mix, especially since the final paragraph of the promo states:

"For New Player's Club members that sign up in the month of September. Excludes Poker".

"Excludes Poker" suggests that everything else (blackjack, craps, roulette) is okay. But what if "Excludes Poker" means 'excludes video poker"!

Also, the line, "You must have at least 5 hours of rated play and at least $500 of rated slot loss" seems to indicate you need BOTH. Which in turn suggests that table game losses would not be allowed unless there was also a $500 slot loss.

--Dunbar

--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, <harry.porter@> wrote:
>
> kelso, I find it reasonably safe to assume that "rated loss" means "tracked loss"; not "theoretical loss". --- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, vpplayer88@ wrote: Any details on what games are included whether it's just slots or video poker too?
>
> --- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com , "blitzace255" BLITZace255@ wrote:
> >
> > New from Mount Airy Casino in the month of September:
> >
> >
> > "New Player's Club Members, it's time to get paid! Play during the month of September and receive 50% of your losses back up to $50,000!
> >
> > You must have at least 5 hours of rated play and at least $500 of rated slot loss. Your reimbursement offer will be sent in the following month and valid through 10 offers over a 5 week period.
> >
> > For New Player's Club members that sign up in the month of September"
> >
> > http://mountairycasino.com/play/casino/promotions/
> >
> >
> >
> > According to vpfree2, they have
> >
> > 99.54% JoB: $1, $2, $5, $10
> > 99.17% BP: $1, $2, $5, $10
> > 99.11% DB: $1, $2, $5, $10
> > 99.07% Joker Poker Royal Flush: 25¢, 50¢
> > 98.98% DDB: $1, $2, $5, $10
> > 98.91% LV Airport/Illinois Deuces: $1, $2, $5, $10
> >
>

Well, well, well, Video Poker is out! The promotion has changed once again.

"New Player's Club Members, it's time to get paid! Play during the month of September and receive 50% of your losses back up to $50,000!

You must have at least 5 hours of rated play and at least $500 of rated slot loss. Your reimbursement offer will be sent in the following month and valid through 10 offers over a 5 week period.

For New Player's Club members that sign up in the month of September. Excludes Video Poker & Table Poker Players"

···

--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "blitzace255" <BLITZace255@...> wrote:

Ever since I've become intrigued by the advantage gambling community I have noticed that many casinos don't seem to have a clue...

Promotions are poorly worded, do not contain enough information, change mid-stream...

Booth workers don't know the current promotions, give incorrect information, do not properly honor promotions...

...unless, of course, they are doing this on purpose to take advantage of players or otherwise get them in the door. Personally, though, I am most likely to come into a casino if the pay tables are great and the promotions are good to the point of having an advantage or something close to it. Apparently they want nothing to do with APs or aspiring APs who would be willing to risk a decent-sized bankroll to play

or they are just incompetent.

--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "dunbar_dra" <h_dunbar@> wrote:
>
> I want to agree with Harry's take, but the promo is so poorly written that I'm not sure.
>
> It appears that sometime today Mt. Airy added "Excludes poker" to the last line of the promo.
>
> The wording is open to several interpretations. "rated play" might indicate that table games are in the mix, especially since the final paragraph of the promo states:
>
> "For New Player's Club members that sign up in the month of September. Excludes Poker".
>
> "Excludes Poker" suggests that everything else (blackjack, craps, roulette) is okay. But what if "Excludes Poker" means 'excludes video poker"!
>
> Also, the line, "You must have at least 5 hours of rated play and at least $500 of rated slot loss" seems to indicate you need BOTH. Which in turn suggests that table game losses would not be allowed unless there was also a $500 slot loss.
>
> --Dunbar
>
>
>
> --- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, <harry.porter@> wrote:
> >
> > kelso, I find it reasonably safe to assume that "rated loss" means "tracked loss"; not "theoretical loss". --- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, vpplayer88@ wrote: Any details on what games are included whether it's just slots or video poker too?
> >
> > --- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com , "blitzace255" BLITZace255@ wrote:
> > >
> > > New from Mount Airy Casino in the month of September:
> > >
> > >
> > > "New Player's Club Members, it's time to get paid! Play during the month of September and receive 50% of your losses back up to $50,000!
> > >
> > > You must have at least 5 hours of rated play and at least $500 of rated slot loss. Your reimbursement offer will be sent in the following month and valid through 10 offers over a 5 week period.
> > >
> > > For New Player's Club members that sign up in the month of September"
> > >
> > > http://mountairycasino.com/play/casino/promotions/
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > According to vpfree2, they have
> > >
> > > 99.54% JoB: $1, $2, $5, $10
> > > 99.17% BP: $1, $2, $5, $10
> > > 99.11% DB: $1, $2, $5, $10
> > > 99.07% Joker Poker Royal Flush: 25¢, 50¢
> > > 98.98% DDB: $1, $2, $5, $10
> > > 98.91% LV Airport/Illinois Deuces: $1, $2, $5, $10
> > >
> >
>