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$5 Pick-em Playing - Two Macines at a Time When Others are Waiting

#1

I was at MS on Sat and went into high limits trying to get onto one of the 4 remaining $5 pick-em machines. There was a woman playing two machines. I asked if she was playing both and she said yes. I explained that these were the only 4 machines of this type in the casino. Her response was that she was there every week and that there were other similar machines throughout the Casino. I told here that this was not the case and players like her would eventually cause MS to remove all of the machines. There was an employee standing there who I knew that asked me if I wanted him to get a manager. I said no, not wanting to cause a scene.
The bottom line is that rude, obnoxious, selfish players like this will end up ruining the play for all of us. How would you have handled it? Would you have called over a manager? Called the woman a fat pig and some other kind words or just left?

Joel

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----- Original Message ----
From: haaljo <haaljo@yahoo.com>
To: vpFREE_NewEngland@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, March 25, 2008 7:51:48 PM
Subject: [vpFREE_NewEngland] Re: New Player Levels

Yea, $90 for one point on most $1 machines. Not $80. My senior moment.
Its $90K action every six months to maintain Wolf status on most $1
machines. $180K/6 months on the better machines. I guess you could do
$360K/year to maintain Wolf on the better machines.
Its all speculation on where this is going but I think its a good
business plan for MS. Just put it in perspective if this happnes.
Wolf is yours for $360K/year
Sagamore for $720K/year
Wow, that means Sachem is going to be over $1 million/year

Seven Stars at Harrah's is yours for $1 million in action/year. Seven
Stars is way better than Sachem from the offers my 7* friends get.

You need quite a bankroll to take advantage of these higher levels.
The offers can add a percent to the E.V.
Sagamore offers do not add one percent so I doubt Wolf will.
So, go for Wolf status but be fairly confident it will cost you $5K-
$10K for membership gambling on most machines. $3K on fair bet
machines.
David with his Eyes wide open in Boston

--- In vpFREE_NewEngland@ yahoogroups. com, "chuckn330i"
<cnorthrup@. ..> wrote:

--- In vpFREE_NewEngland@ yahoogroups. com, "haaljo" <haaljo@> wrote:
>
> 1,000 points/six months = $80K action for most machine gamblers.
> 3 percent O/P (after complimentaries returned) = $2,400/.5 year.
> It is a good business plan to return additonal complimentaries to
> this level of action. Very common in mature gambling venues.

Reduced

> charges for Buffet, Casino rate rooms. I understand new Wolf

Lounge

> is planned on the 5th floor of planned "Thames" garage (Nice

View) :slight_smile:

> David in Boston - Off to MS next weekend. Two trips to Nevada in
> April (Thanks, Harrah's).

Hi,

Could you please elaborate on how you came up with this 80k level.

If

you look at either 90 or 180 coin in per point I do not understand

how

this number is arrived at.

Would this be an average over six months or a certain requirement by
day per month, etc.?

I feel I am or could play at this level so any help would be
appreciated in helping someone figure out how to get there.

Thanks,
Chuckn

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#2

Joel,
Choose your battles. Keep a low profile. Go have fun. Gamble when the
joint is not crowded the way the Dancer's and Palladin do.
Toke the MS Associate if he or a colleague can hold the machine for a
few minutes and give you a cell phone call.
You did the right thing. Its a fair bet but not a great bet.
David in Boston

--- In vpFREE_NewEngland@yahoogroups.com, Joel Fink <joel0457@...>
wrote:

I was at MS on Sat and went into high limits trying to get onto one

of the 4 remaining $5 pick-em machines. There was a woman playing two
machines. I asked if she was playing both and she said yes. I
explained that these were the only 4 machines of this type in the
casino. Her response was that she was there every week and that there
were other similar machines throughout the Casino. I told here that
this was not the case and players like her would eventually cause MS
to remove all of the machines. There was an employee standing there
who I knew that asked me if I wanted him to get a manager. I said no,
not wanting to cause a scene.

The bottom line is that rude, obnoxious, selfish players like this

will end up ruining the play for all of us. How would you have
handled it? Would you have called over a manager? Called the woman a
fat pig and some other kind words or just left?

Joel

From: haaljo <haaljo@...>
To: vpFREE_NewEngland@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, March 25, 2008 7:51:48 PM
Subject: [vpFREE_NewEngland] Re: New Player Levels

Yea, $90 for one point on most $1 machines. Not $80. My senior

moment.

Its $90K action every six months to maintain Wolf status on most $1
machines. $180K/6 months on the better machines. I guess you could

do

$360K/year to maintain Wolf on the better machines.
Its all speculation on where this is going but I think its a good
business plan for MS. Just put it in perspective if this happnes.
Wolf is yours for $360K/year
Sagamore for $720K/year
Wow, that means Sachem is going to be over $1 million/year

Seven Stars at Harrah's is yours for $1 million in action/year.

Seven

Stars is way better than Sachem from the offers my 7* friends get.

You need quite a bankroll to take advantage of these higher levels.
The offers can add a percent to the E.V.
Sagamore offers do not add one percent so I doubt Wolf will.
So, go for Wolf status but be fairly confident it will cost you $5K-
$10K for membership gambling on most machines. $3K on fair bet
machines.
David with his Eyes wide open in Boston

--- In vpFREE_NewEngland@ yahoogroups. com, "chuckn330i"
<cnorthrup@ ..> wrote:
>
> --- In vpFREE_NewEngland@ yahoogroups. com, "haaljo" <haaljo@>

wrote:

> >
> > 1,000 points/six months = $80K action for most machine gamblers.
> > 3 percent O/P (after complimentaries returned) = $2,400/.5 year.
> > It is a good business plan to return additonal complimentaries

to

> > this level of action. Very common in mature gambling venues.
Reduced
> > charges for Buffet, Casino rate rooms. I understand new Wolf
Lounge
> > is planned on the 5th floor of planned "Thames" garage (Nice
View) :slight_smile:
> > David in Boston - Off to MS next weekend. Two trips to Nevada

in

> > April (Thanks, Harrah's).
>
>
> Hi,
>
> Could you please elaborate on how you came up with this 80k

level.

If
> you look at either 90 or 180 coin in per point I do not

understand

how
> this number is arrived at.
>
> Would this be an average over six months or a certain requirement

by

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----- Original Message ----
> day per month, etc.?
>
> I feel I am or could play at this level so any help would be
> appreciated in helping someone figure out how to get there.
>
> Thanks,
> Chuckn
>

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#3

LOL... always check to see how well the person is playing BEFORE you consider any action
at all. If they are making big mistakes (or any at all)-- do whatever it takes to keep them
playing. Playing 2 machines isn't by itself going to get the play killed. One particular
women player I've watched playing two machines threw away trips (and yes we spoke
about it). The more that women plays the better.

I was at MS on Sat and went into high limits trying to get onto one of the 4 remaining $5

pick-em machines. There was a woman playing two machines. I asked if she was playing
both and she said yes. I explained that these were the only 4 machines of this type in the
casino. Her response was that she was there every week and that there were other similar
machines throughout the Casino. I told here that this was not the case and players like her
would eventually cause MS to remove all of the machines. There was an employee
standing there who I knew that asked me if I wanted him to get a manager. I said no, not
wanting to cause a scene.

The bottom line is that rude, obnoxious, selfish players like this will end up ruining the

play for all of us. How would you have handled it? Would you have called over a manager?
Called the woman a fat pig and some other kind words or just left?

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--- In vpFREE_NewEngland@yahoogroups.com, Joel Fink <joel0457@...> wrote:

Joel

#4

--- In vpFREE_NewEngland@yahoogroups.com, "cdfsrule"
<vpfree_digests@...> wrote:

LOL... always check to see how well the person is playing BEFORE

you consider any action

at all. If they are making big mistakes (or any at all)-- do

whatever it takes to keep them

playing. Playing 2 machines isn't by itself going to get the play

killed. One particular

women player I've watched playing two machines threw away trips

(and yes we spoke

about it). The more that women plays the better.

--- In vpFREE_NewEngland@yahoogroups.com, Joel Fink <joel0457@>

wrote:

>
> I was at MS on Sat and went into high limits trying to get onto

one of the 4 remaining $5

pick-em machines. There was a woman playing two machines. I asked

if she was playing

both and she said yes. I explained that these were the only 4

machines of this type in the

casino. Her response was that she was there every week and that

there were other similar

machines throughout the Casino. I told here that this was not the

case and players like her

would eventually cause MS to remove all of the machines. There was

an employee

standing there who I knew that asked me if I wanted him to get a

manager. I said no, not

wanting to cause a scene.
> The bottom line is that rude, obnoxious, selfish players like

this will end up ruining the

play for all of us. How would you have handled it? Would you have

called over a manager?

Called the woman a fat pig and some other kind words or just left?
>
> Joel
>
There is 1 $5 upright in Hall of Lost Tribes that is usually

available 99.95% of the time.