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$3 Million on Us

#1

The conversion of Reward Credits to Simon Visa cards has been discontinued in Atlantic City.

In a message dated 6/17/06 8:22:24 AM US Mountain Standard Time, GRAYTLEEGRAY@aol.com writes:> >>>>>>SNIP<<<<<<> > Future HET promos have to be considered. HET is currently doing a > system-wide $3 Million on Us promo based on Tier points earned during the 10 > week > qualifying period. Every 25 Tier points gets an entry into a local drawing. > Each > of 32 casinos will select their 10 representitives for the Big Bang Finale > where $1 million is up for grabs, 1 million Reward Credits or 1 million > Airline > miles. Each house also has local drawings which adds value.> > Figuring this one out will be tough. But each house has 10 Finalists, so if > you are a Finalist you would have 1/320 chance of winning one of the three > Grand Prizes.> > > > > > ******Well I started to get into looking at the value of the BBF on September 10th for HET casinos. I actually broke out my official rules card for Laughlin. This is a 4x9 inch glossy card promoting the "$3 Million on Us" deal.First to note it runs May 8th to August 27, about 13 weeks.Laughlin is going to select 8 Finalists, not 10 as I stated. It does not state just how many Finalists will be selected for each casino. Maybe it was a previous BBF (Treasure Hunt, Money Tree) where I got the 10x32= 320 Finalist total?So I will not assume all 32 outlets select 8, which would be a 1/256 chance. Does anyone else have their casino's "official rules" in their hands?Laughlin will select their 8 at 1pm for the 5pm BBF, with in-house closed circuit TV. Right after the BBF, Laughlin casino will select 5 contestants for the in-house 1 million Reward Credit drawing.Here are some questions:Are all HET casinos doing their Finalist drawing at 1pm PDT? This would preclude participating in Vegas in more than one of these.Who knows what value a 25 year/$40k annuity is worth in today's dollars? That really is the Grand Prize.Who knows what 1 Million Reward Credits are worth converting them to Visa Cards? They still do this right?Who knows what 1 Million American Airline miles are worth? Is there any way to convert to cash?BS[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

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To: vpFREE@yahoogroups.comFrom: GRAYTLEEGRAY@aol.comDate: Sat, 17 Jun 2006 15:34:40 -0400Subject: Re: [vpFREE] Re: Jean's Frugal Fridays/Caesars Slot Tourney/$3 Million on Us

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#2

Who knows what 1 Million American Airline miles are worth? Is there
any way to convert to cash?

No way to convert them to cash. However, if you fancy international
travel, these miles could be worth a greatr deal. I believe that
using FF miles for such travel usually results in the most bang for
your FF mile. One quick for instance. Were you to book a FC ticket
Chicago/London Gatwick for a week vacation in mid-October, that ticket
will cost you at least 125000 of your million miles. However, that
ticket costs a little over $14000.

In short, the value of the AA miles greatly depends upon how you
decide to use them. In general, you'll get a lot less dollar value
from using them for domestic flights. However, you'll get many
more "free" flights that way. Perhaps that would be more important to
you. All depends upon the individual's desires.

paison

#3

Someone asked if there was a way to convert American Airline miles to
cash.

I believe the promotion is called 3 million on us --- which is not the
same as $3 million on us.

There sure is a way to convert the airline miles to cash. When I played
at the MGM Grand, they awarded AA miles "for free" in addition to slot
club points. I don't remember the formula but it was something like one
AA mile per 100 slot club points. Over the year and a half we played
there, we earned in excess of 6 million AA miles.

To convert to cash, all you do is find people who want "cheap" air
travel. Domestic flights at the time took 25,000 miles --- and you sell
them for "whatever". The price we charged varied, but basically selling
them for 1.2 cents (making these tickets cost $300) was a price that
worked. (At that price, a million AA miles would be worth $12,000). It
took a while to get the word out, as officially American Airlines tried
to enforce rules against selling your miles and places like eBay
wouldn't let you sell them there, but it wasn't that difficult. However
many miles you have, when you run out people will be asking to buy more.

Bob Dancer

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#4

There sure is a way to convert the airline miles to cash. When I

played

at the MGM Grand, they awarded AA miles "for free" in addition to

slot

club points. I don't remember the formula but it was something

like one

AA mile per 100 slot club points. Over the year and a half we

played

there, we earned in excess of 6 million AA miles.

To convert to cash, all you do is find people who want "cheap" air
travel. Domestic flights at the time took 25,000 miles --- and you

sell

them for "whatever". The price we charged varied, but basically

selling

them for 1.2 cents (making these tickets cost $300) was a price

that

worked. (At that price, a million AA miles would be worth

$12,000). It

took a while to get the word out, as officially American Airlines

tried

to enforce rules against selling your miles and places like eBay
wouldn't let you sell them there, but it wasn't that difficult.

However

many miles you have, when you run out people will be asking to buy

more.

Oops! Apparently, I was wrong in the previous post when I claimed
that there is no way to convert AA miles into cash. I should have
written that there is no way to convert AA miles into cash if you
abide by the rules of the program. Nasty habit of mine to presume
honest, above-board behavior. Guess I'll have work on that.

paison

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--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "Bob Dancer" <bob.dancer@...> wrote:

#5

<<Oops! Apparently, I was wrong in the previous post when I claimed
that there is no way to convert AA miles into cash. I should have
written that there is no way to convert AA miles into cash if you
abide by the rules of the program. Nasty habit of mine to presume
honest, above-board behavior. Guess I'll have work on that.>>

There is nothing dishonest about choosing not to follow someone else's
rules. America was founded on such behavior.

Cogno

#6

Cogno Scienti wrote:

There is nothing dishonest about choosing not to follow someone else's
rules. America was founded on such behavior.

That's exactly what I tell myself every time I set my speed control
for 9 mi. over the speed limit ...

... and also the credo held by every person who has ever stolen the
property of another in the casino.

- H.

#7

Ah! True grist for the mill!

This can be the grand opening of a truly fine "donnybrook", arguing semantics.

Where is my Webster's? LOL

But, please remember, this is a VP site!

.....bl

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--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "Cogno Scienti" <cognoscienti@...> wrote:

There is nothing dishonest about choosing not to follow someone else's
rules.

Cogno

#8

--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "Cogno Scienti" <cognoscienti@...>
wrote:

There is nothing dishonest about choosing not to follow someone

else's

rules.

Nonsense! These are not "someone else's rules." They are rules all
participating members have agreed to follow; at that point of
agreement, they are the member's rules, not "someone else's." AA's
FF program has clearly stated rules and regulations in its T & C
statement. When one joins such a program, he/she agrees to abide by
those Terms and Conditions. Membership is entirely a matter of an
individual's free choice. To agree to abide by the rules and then
to fail to do so for some personal modest monetary gain seems to me
to be less than honest or ethical behavior. I might add that U.S.
courts have consistently ruled in favor of the airlines when they
have chosen to enforce their T & C by such means as dismissing
offending members from the program and confiscating their miles.

paison

#9

<<Nonsense! These are not "someone else's rules." They are rules all
participating members have agreed to follow>>

I never agreed.

<<To agree to abide by the rules and then to fail to do so for some personal
modest monetary gain seems to me to be less than honest or ethical
behavior.>>

I applaud you on your high ethical standards.

Cogno

#10

<<That's exactly what I tell myself every time I set my speed control for 9
mi. over the speed limit ...

... and also the credo held by every person who has ever stolen the property
of another in the casino.>>

I think you'll find a broader consensus on the dishonesty of stealing
other's property than on abiding by boilerplate language in a contract of
adhesion presented by a large corporation dictating what I can and cannot do
with my assets.

Cogno

#11

Actually, if you are a member you HAVE agreed to the rules. It is
part of the signup process to get your consent.

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At 09:57 AM 6/21/2006, you wrote:

<<Nonsense! These are not "someone else's rules." They are rules all
participating members have agreed to follow>>

I never agreed.

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#12

<<Actually, if you are a member you HAVE agreed to the rules. It is part of
the signup process to get your consent.>>

No, actually it isn't and I didn't.

Cogno

#13

You can use Hiltonhonors club to convert airline miles to Hilton
Points and Hiltion Points can be used for a limited amount of
merchanside.

The conversion of Reward Credits to Simon Visa cards has been

discontinued in Atlantic City.

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Who knows what 1 Million American Airline miles are worth? Is there
any way to convert to cash?BS