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$2,478.25 royal on .25 progresives!!!!!!!!!!

got your attention??

hit royal this morning at native casino on a 97.58 deuces wild progressive , dont know exact payback but 140% increase in royal plus .50 cb ( double points) made it playable , saw it get hit at 1100 3 weeks ago, must not been hit since, YEAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I was goin to play the pick-em on mon as usual , my wife to play the ducks when she call me over to show me the royal.

We fast decided to take our shot with daily bankroll, play until we win it, lose it all , someone else hits it or fall asleep was goin to be the outcome for this trip today.

Trying to figure out changes on the fly, A-10 suited plays, 2 to royal much stronger play than normal , close on tossin 1 deuce wild royal, K Q J for sure, was playin at max speed and any doubt i had i went for the royal figuring increasing hands per hour played was important enuf to justify small increase in error rate.

Yes, you all know what happen , was dealt 4 to the royal in hearts and i drew the queen, no changes needed to make that choice. LOL

Brought it plus $600 more home. been going good lately, but no worry as i am sure it will change ; )

Strangest thing: me and my wife were was the only ones playing at 9am on the bank.

M J

payback was 100.4104 per vp genuis

M J

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--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "mklpryy24" <mklpryy24@...> wrote:

got your attention??

hit royal this morning at native casino on a 97.58 deuces wild progressive , dont know exact payback but 140% increase in royal plus .50 cb ( double points) made it playable , saw it get hit at 1100 3 weeks ago, must not been hit since, YEAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I was goin to play the pick-em on mon as usual , my wife to play the ducks when she call me over to show me the royal.

We fast decided to take our shot with daily bankroll, play until we win it, lose it all , someone else hits it or fall asleep was goin to be the outcome for this trip today.

Trying to figure out changes on the fly, A-10 suited plays, 2 to royal much stronger play than normal , close on tossin 1 deuce wild royal, K Q J for sure, was playin at max speed and any doubt i had i went for the royal figuring increasing hands per hour played was important enuf to justify small increase in error rate.

Yes, you all know what happen , was dealt 4 to the royal in hearts and i drew the queen, no changes needed to make that choice. LOL

Brought it plus $600 more home. been going good lately, but no worry as i am sure it will change ; )

Strangest thing: me and my wife were was the only ones playing at 9am on the bank.

M J

Congrats on your jackpot. I sent you a personal email. Please check your inbox and reply when you can. Thanks.

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--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "mklpryy24" <mklpryy24@...> wrote:

payback was 100.4104 per vp genuis

M J

Fantastic! Congratulations! I'm still trying to hit my first one...can you say ELUSIVE! :slight_smile:

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--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "mklpryy24" <mklpryy24@...> wrote:

got your attention??

hit royal this morning at native casino on a 97.58 deuces wild progressive , dont know exact payback but 140% increase in royal plus .50 cb ( double points) made it playable , saw it get hit at 1100 3 weeks ago, must not been hit since, YEAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

what % is the rf meter?

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--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "weepum" <weepum@...> wrote:

Fantastic! Congratulations! I'm still trying to hit my first one...can you say ELUSIVE! :slight_smile:

--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "mklpryy24" <mklpryy24@> wrote:
>
> got your attention??
>
> hit royal this morning at native casino on a 97.58 deuces wild progressive , dont know exact payback but 140% increase in royal plus .50 cb ( double points) made it playable , saw it get hit at 1100 3 weeks ago, must not been hit since, YEAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>

Hang on a minute (or in German "Ein minuten bitter!")

If it started out as a 97.58% return game, you needed at least $2,200 to make it to break-even. If you were playing when the meter was $2,478.25 you were playing at less than the edge you'd have on 5/9 Deuces 100.76% return.

And playing regular FPD is not worth anyone's time, unless one makes less than $8 an hour at their regular job.

Unless there are some major slot club benefits you aren't sharing, you seem to be very happy about having played and hit a progressive you never should have been playing in the first place.

Not to mention the strategy changes significantly for a progressive that high. It's unlikely you even had an edge if you were playing non-progressive strategy. If you're going to play that bank in the future, you need to wait for more, and you need to create a progressive strategy for your projected start number.

I'm sorry if I'm raining on your parade, but I'm trying to give you good advice on how to make money paying VP...and help you avoid further wastes of your time.

~FK

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--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "weepum" <weepum@...> wrote:

Fantastic! Congratulations! I'm still trying to hit my first one...can you say ELUSIVE! :slight_smile:

--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "mklpryy24" <mklpryy24@> wrote:
>
> got your attention??
>
> hit royal this morning at native casino on a 97.58 deuces wild progressive , dont know exact payback but 140% increase in royal plus .50 cb ( double points) made it playable , saw it get hit at 1100 3 weeks ago, must not been hit since, YEAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>

I have to admit this post disturbs me a little. It's obvious that you enjoy your role as vp guru, but I think you are getting a little carried away. Your comments seem to be based on several assumptions and definitely have an inappropriately dogmatic tone.

For one, you are assuming that he is trying to make a living on vp. There are a lot of people who are happy to play at a disadvantage for the entertainment value, but still want to play the best game available in that particular casino to make their money and fun last as long as possible. He could have been planning to play that day regardless and was happy to get to play a game with an advantage.

To point out that FPDW has a higher edge seems to assume that he can find a FPDW game in his area.

To outright say:

And playing regular FPD is not worth anyone's time

as well as:

...hit a progressive you never should have been playing in the first place

and:

and help you avoid further wastes of your time.

is obviously projecting your values and standards onto everyone else as an absolute truth.

Obviously your expertise is very welcome and well received on this board. But I think it would be even better received (by a larger audience) if you present it as advice and not indoctrination.

After all, I'm sure that back in the day when you were doing this full-time, you were doing plays that some other pros would have thought was a waste of their time and below their standards of hourly rate, but that didn't make it a waste of your time.

Hang on a minute (or in German "Ein minuten bitter!")

It's been a long time since my high schoool German classes, but I thought it was "bitte."

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--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "Frank" <frank@...> wrote:

Frank, whatsamattafayou? (or in Italian, "What's your problem?")

The guy said he was at an Indian joint, hence no FPDW. He also said he was getting double points, also hence that was worth .5%. Even more hence, I'm pretty sure I know where he is talking about and they have some bounceback. I wrote to this gentleman to ask, but have not heard back from him yet. If it's the place I think it is, I play there once in awhile too. The thing is, on those same machines there is 7-5 Bonus Poker. (7-5, Frank, not 5-7) I'd play that for a better return any day. I hope this gentleman writes me back. I'm anxious to ask him about this.

And Frank, I'm only picking on you because you're my idol. You and Micky both are my idols. I'd pick on him too, but he might kick my ass.

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--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "Frank" <frank@...> wrote:

Hang on a minute (or in German "Ein minuten bitter!")

If it started out as a 97.58% return game, you needed at least $2,200 to make it to break-even. If you were playing when the meter was $2,478.25 you were playing at less than the edge you'd have on 5/9 Deuces 100.76% return.

And playing regular FPD is not worth anyone's time, unless one makes less than $8 an hour at their regular job.

Unless there are some major slot club benefits you aren't sharing, you seem to be very happy about having played and hit a progressive you never should have been playing in the first place.

Not to mention the strategy changes significantly for a progressive that high. It's unlikely you even had an edge if you were playing non-progressive strategy. If you're going to play that bank in the future, you need to wait for more, and you need to create a progressive strategy for your projected start number.

I'm sorry if I'm raining on your parade, but I'm trying to give you good advice on how to make money paying VP...and help you avoid further wastes of your time.

~FK

--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "seedub49" <seedub49@...> wrote: I have to admit this post disturbs me a little. It's obvious that you enjoy your role as vp guru, but I think you are getting a little carried away. Your comments seem to be based on several assumptions and definitely have an inappropriately dogmatic tone.

~FK REPLY
Ah excellent! It was intended to disturb, sort of. Hopefully not offend.

Let me make my POV perfectly clear.

As a book author and now VP radio personality I'm worried (terrified actually) that I could be promoting negative expectancy and or problem gambling in any way. What is profitable for some and simply fun for others, can be a life ending addiction for many sad individuals.

Therefore it has to be my policy to promote non-recreational professional play, so I can get some sleep at nights. I care far more about not hurting anyone, than I do about taking the popular party line and promoting gambling and my sales.

Gambling can be a incredibly destructive addiction!!! Please don't forget that.

For this reason, I only advocate positive expectancy gambling for the sole purpose of making extra-money or a living.

I think you need to ask yourself, "If you are gambling and making less than you would at your regular job, why are you doing it anyway?"

Except for it's income potential, it is a completely pointless endeavor.

I am also sorry to be the bearer of bad tidings, but all the reasons why people find gambling "exciting" or "fun" are often the indicators of mental issues. Not always, but very often. This coming not from me, but from the books on gambling addiction that I've read.

The only "good" thing that can happen when one gambles is for one to make money. Therefore, if a person isn't playing to make money, they are wasting their time...and if for some inexplicable reason they enjoy losing, they likely have a problem and should seek help.

Since you aren't out there promoting gambling, you can take the softer line. As a VP guru I have to take the hard-line discourage anything but for-profit-gambling. To do anything else would be in my opinion unethical, considering the possible harm that could come to people with issues.

I hope you understand that this is because I really do care.

My suggestion...if you disagree, just ignore me. It's a very good general policy, just ask Bob:)

~FK

Then like Rosanna Rosanna Danna, let me say, "Never Mind".

$2,478.25 just seemed awful low to be playing a quarter. If he had all those perks it was a good play.

I've only played about 4 quarter progressives this year, but they were all well over $4,000.

I thought my errant post sparked a good thread topic. See previous posts. I think my other problem is that I'm too worried about the negative aspects of gambling to account for anyone doing it "For Fun".

Oh and please feel free to pick. I probably deserve it.

~FK

--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "bobbartop" <bobbartop@...> wrote: Frank, whatsamattafayou? (or in Italian, "What's your problem?")

The guy said he was at an Indian joint, hence no FPDW. He also said he was getting double points, also hence that was worth .5%. Even more hence, I'm pretty sure I know where he is talking about and they have some bounceback. I wrote to this gentleman to ask, but have not heard back from him yet. If it's the place I think it is, I play there once in awhile too. The thing is, on those same machines there is 7-5 Bonus Poker. (7-5, Frank, not 5-7) I'd play that for a better return any day. I hope this gentleman writes me back. I'm anxious to ask him about this.

And Frank, I'm only picking on you because you're my idol. You and Micky both are my idols. I'd pick on him too, but he might kick my ass.

Wow, 4000? I've only heard of those, not seen any. I did play a 9-5 DDB for quarters a few weeks ago that was about $3200. Not too shabby.

Frank, I was in Vegas recently and checked a lot of bars. Basically, they suck! Yes, I know there are promos and wheel gadgits and stuff, but what are they thinking? 7-5 BPDelux, 6-5 BP, 7-5 JoB and DDB, all seem to be the norm. Why do people play those religiously?

Here's a not-so-funny funny story. I was on the west side, scouting, and saw these banners outside a bar, it was Double Diamond Saloon or something. It was like, "HELLO, WE'RE NEW, WE HAVE VIDEO POKER, COME ON IN AND PLAY!" So I park my car, and I'm thinking maybe they'll have some decent pay tables or promos. THEY HAD SQUAT! It was awful. 6-5 Bonus Poker, get the f oudda here. I ordered a coke, drank half of it, left her a buck, and left.

But that was typical.

I stopped at Crown and Anchor, an English pub with video poker, the same kind of dismal vp, no progressives, but holy smoke the girls were beautiful. (there ya go, Frank, better check that out) I ain't kiddin, they were wearing some plaid-type skirts, very classy and attractive, and drop-dead gorgeous. But the video poker SUCKED!

I see in my mind a bright future for Las Vegas and all the bars. All the owners are going to suddenly have a light bulb go off in their head and they're all going to start dealing NSU progressives. And business is going to prosper, and Las Vegas is going to rebound because of that, with or without Celine Dion.

By the way, Frank, I stopped at Dotty's and Jackpot Joanie's. Nice setups. I'm rooting for them. Interestingly, Jackpot Joanie's shares a website with Winchell's Pubs, and I looked at every Winchell's. They all sucked. Wtf?

Here's the deal, Frank. I'm going to tell you how it HAS to be. We are all depending on you, Frank. You are going to have to single-handedly talk some sense into these business owners. It's your job now, Frank. Big shot radio show host, rubbing elbows with the rich and famous like Bob Dancer, now you are going to have to step up to the plate, Frank. You are now the PEOPLE'S VIDEO POKER GURU! We're counting on you.

best,
Bob Bartop

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--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "Frank" <frank@...> wrote:

I've only played about 4 quarter progressives this year, but they were all well over $4,000.

Oh thanks, like I didn't have enough pressure already.

I'll do my best, but keep in mind, your best hopes are now placed with a guy that is very happy when his socks match.

I'll see if I can;t effect some change in the industry, but I'll settle for keeping you all laughing.

~FK

--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "bobbartop" <bobbartop@...> wrote: Here's the deal, Frank. I'm going to tell you how it HAS to be. We are all depending on you, Frank. You are going to have to single-handedly talk some sense into these business owners. It's your job now, Frank. Big shot radio show host, rubbing elbows with the rich and famous like Bob Dancer, now you are going to have to step up to the plate, Frank. You are now the PEOPLE'S VIDEO POKER GURU! We're counting on you.
best, Bob Bartop

Actually Bob is my idol, for the sole reason he was a Big-Name DBA in So-Cal...and all of the DBA's I know are pretty damn intelligent (in the fact that they make big bucks for doing no strenous work)

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--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "bobbartop" <bobbartop@...> wrote:

--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "Frank" <frank@> wrote:
>
>
> I've only played about 4 quarter progressives this year, but they were all well over $4,000.
>

Wow, 4000? I've only heard of those, not seen any. I did play a 9-5 DDB for quarters a few weeks ago that was about $3200. Not too shabby.

Frank, I was in Vegas recently and checked a lot of bars. Basically, they suck! Yes, I know there are promos and wheel gadgits and stuff, but what are they thinking? 7-5 BPDelux, 6-5 BP, 7-5 JoB and DDB, all seem to be the norm. Why do people play those religiously?

Here's a not-so-funny funny story. I was on the west side, scouting, and saw these banners outside a bar, it was Double Diamond Saloon or something. It was like, "HELLO, WE'RE NEW, WE HAVE VIDEO POKER, COME ON IN AND PLAY!" So I park my car, and I'm thinking maybe they'll have some decent pay tables or promos. THEY HAD SQUAT! It was awful. 6-5 Bonus Poker, get the f oudda here. I ordered a coke, drank half of it, left her a buck, and left.

But that was typical.

I stopped at Crown and Anchor, an English pub with video poker, the same kind of dismal vp, no progressives, but holy smoke the girls were beautiful. (there ya go, Frank, better check that out) I ain't kiddin, they were wearing some plaid-type skirts, very classy and attractive, and drop-dead gorgeous. But the video poker SUCKED!

I see in my mind a bright future for Las Vegas and all the bars. All the owners are going to suddenly have a light bulb go off in their head and they're all going to start dealing NSU progressives. And business is going to prosper, and Las Vegas is going to rebound because of that, with or without Celine Dion.

By the way, Frank, I stopped at Dotty's and Jackpot Joanie's. Nice setups. I'm rooting for them. Interestingly, Jackpot Joanie's shares a website with Winchell's Pubs, and I looked at every Winchell's. They all sucked. Wtf?

Here's the deal, Frank. I'm going to tell you how it HAS to be. We are all depending on you, Frank. You are going to have to single-handedly talk some sense into these business owners. It's your job now, Frank. Big shot radio show host, rubbing elbows with the rich and famous like Bob Dancer, now you are going to have to step up to the plate, Frank. You are now the PEOPLE'S VIDEO POKER GURU! We're counting on you.

best,
Bob Bartop

As a book author and now VP radio personality I'm worried (terrified actually) that I could be promoting negative expectancy and or problem gambling in any way. What is profitable for some and simply fun for others, can be a life ending addiction for many sad individuals.

I can accept that you don't want to inadvertently condone negative expectancy gambling, but I'm afraid you might have missed a/the major point of my reply. Mainly, statements like:

And playing regular FPD is not worth anyone's time

are just not absolutely true. While it might be true for you, there are many people for whom that is not true. You evaluation of what is a waste of your time is based on your experiences, goals, mental constructs, situation, etc... Other people should not necessarily conform to your value judgments as others all have different experiences, goals, etc...

A large percentage of FPDW players are retirees who enjoy having a hobby that provides entertainment, extra income, and (because a lot of those players are daily regulars) social engagement. FPDW is a great fit because it is a low variance game with an extremely easy strategy to learn. It certainly is not a waste of time for those people.

I think you need to ask yourself, "If you are gambling and making less than you would at your regular job, why are you doing it anyway?"

Except for it's income potential, it is a completely pointless endeavor.

As most statements that are absolute in nature, this over-simplification makes it untrue when applied to a lot of specific situatons.

For me, when I started out with a small bankroll, grinding out $25/hour playing quarter deuces two machines at a time, I was making less than I did at my previous job. But getting to set my own hours, never having to punch a clock, ask for days off, or set an alarm made the pay cut worth it (to me). Although I never quantified what those perks were worth to me per hour, I knew qualitatively that I was happier than I was in the rat race.

I know you also value such intangibles because you explained how you were willing to skip opportunities in order to have less stress in your life. That stress reduction was worth a cost in money and time to you. In much the same way, there are abstract benefits that make FPDW worth its opportunity costs to others.

And even if we talk from only a monetary POV, even though I was making less per hour when I started grinding FPDW, it gave me the experience and allowed me to build a skill-set that enabled me to move beyond it. I've netted 7 figures from vp in a fraction of the time it would have taken for me to do that in my old job. So I can say with certainty that FPDW wasn't a waste of time for me.

All in all, I feel that you are entitled to make the judgment that FPDW is a waste of time. I even welcome you to state it publicly. I'm not criticizing you or your evaluation.

But I do feel compelled to stress to the readers that such a statement is not an absolute truth, it is an opinion. Unfortunately, the opinions of experts are often taken as facts especially by the novice or completely uninitiated. I make it a point to discourage people from blindly accepting a statement just because it comes from a place of authority. I find that I am much better off studying as needed and then forming my own opinions as I am the only one who knows my particular sitation.

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--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "Frank" <frank@...> wrote:

As a book author and now VP radio personality I'm worried (terrified actually) that I could be promoting negative expectancy and or problem gambling in any way. What is profitable for some and simply fun for others, can be a life ending addiction for many sad individuals.

Therefore it has to be my policy to promote non-recreational professional play, so I can get some sleep at nights. I care far more about not hurting anyone, than I do about taking the popular party line and promoting gambling and my sales.

Gambling can be a incredibly destructive addiction!!! Please don't forget that.

My theory is that anything that can be addictive must have something
good about it, which is true of just about anything. Recreational
gambling doesn't have much appeal to me, but I find it hard to believe
that all recreational gamblers are making a mistake. I assume the
attraction is similar to my attraction to the suspense of not knowing
how, say, a movie or a sporting event will end and I suspect that
professional gamblers would find their occupation much more tedious if
casinos mailed them checks for their expected value and negated all
their fluctuation.

But influential people should be careful of what Frank is referring
to. I routinely jaywalk and often, a crowd of people follows me
across the street. I'd hate to have one of them have an accident just
because they blindly followed me. They may have the primary
responsibility for being careful, but I believe I still have some
responsibility. There have been situations in which I have believed
that I could have safely jaywalked, but that, if other, less careful
people had followed me, they might not have been safe, when I have
waited until the "walk" sign.

--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "seedub49" <seedub49@...> wrote: A really long and good post. Truncated by FK

OK...OK...you win hands down. I retract my statement about FPDW being a waste of time for everyone. I completely agree with all the good points you made and appreciate you for cluing me in on why people play such things.

I'm really not close to a "normal" VP player. Sorry if my weird viewpoints on things seem condescending. It's almost impossible for me to see things from your POV unless you explain it in such beautiful detail as you did.

~FK

P.S. OH and your correction of my German. Haven't used it since age 6.

I know it sounds like I'm clowning around, but I'm serious. Someone has got to grab the bull by the horns and be able to show some of these businessmen how they can increase business, AND profit, by spreading some better pay tables, at different denominations (especially for quarters), with relatively higher progressive meters, with advertisement of that fact. I know there are a few very successful models in the area. And then, there doesn't seem to be a "middle ground". It is the successful models, and then a vast wasteland of 7-5 Double Double Bonus.

Anyway, I don't know who could grab that bull by the horns, but it's got to be someone with clout and respect. That's where YOU come in, Frank!

Which reminds me of a question I'd like to ask you or Bob. A couple years ago, Eastside Cannery was literally fighting for the seal of approval from Bob Dancer and recognition of such for the Boulder Strip. Apparently that got lost or fell through the cracks since then. What happened? If someone can point me to a thread where this was discussed, I'd like to know. Thanks. I must have missed that story.

I know I'm jumping around and kinda digressing, but Frank, how about since you guys have a relationship with Dotty's, what about pushing them in the direction of linked progressives? I really liked their setup. I'm not sure what happened in court last week, I know there was supposed to be something on April 5th, that's what a guy at Dotty's told me.

And another one that should have progressives, in my opinion, is Village Pub. Someone should put the thought into their head. It's a natural!

-BB

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--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "Frank" <frank@...> wrote:

Oh thanks, like I didn't have enough pressure already.

I'll do my best, but keep in mind, your best hopes are now placed with a guy that is very happy when his socks match.

I'll see if I can;t effect some change in the industry, but I'll settle for keeping you all laughing.

Oh no I knew you were serious. I was clowning around. I will seriously begin doing what I can with Bob to influence change.

~FK

--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "bobbartop" <bobbartop@...> wrote:I know it sounds like I'm clowning around, but I'm serious. Someone has got to grab the bull by the horns and be able to show some of these businessmen how they can increase business, AND profit, by spreading some better pay tables, at different denominations (especially for quarters), with relatively higher progressive meters, with advertisement of that fact. I know there are a few very successful models in the area. And then, there doesn't seem to be a "middle ground". It is the successful models, and then a vast wasteland of 7-5 Double Double Bonus.

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Anyway, I don't know who could grab that bull by the horns, but it's got to be someone with clout and respect. That's where YOU come in, Frank!

Which reminds me of a question I'd like to ask you or Bob. A couple years ago, Eastside Cannery was literally fighting for the seal of approval from Bob Dancer and recognition of such for the Boulder Strip. Apparently that got lost or fell through the cracks since then. What happened? If someone can point me to a thread where this was discussed, I'd like to know. Thanks. I must have missed that story.

I know I'm jumping around and kinda digressing, but Frank, how about since you guys have a relationship with Dotty's, what about pushing them in the direction of linked progressives? I really liked their setup. I'm not sure what happened in court last week, I know there was supposed to be something on April 5th, that's what a guy at Dotty's told me.

And another one that should have progressives, in my opinion, is Village Pub. Someone should put the thought into their head. It's a natural!

-BB

--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "seedub49" <seedub49@...> wrote:I know you also value such intangibles because you explained how you were
willing to skip opportunities in order to have less stress in your life. That stress reduction was worth a cost in money and time to you. In much the same way, there are abstract benefits that make FPDW worth its opportunity costs to others.

FYI: I passed on $60 an hour risky plays to do safe $30 and hour plays, which was roughly $10 an hour more than I could have made working a regular job at the time.

Just making sure you understood the exact particulars of my safety VS. risk decisions.

My current criteria is about $40 an hour minimum, which I can easily make doing computer service.

~FK

$4000+ progressives on $.25 video poker machine? Where do you find those?
I have never seen one. I've won some $3,000+ pots but that was rare that I
could find one of those.

Rick

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-----Original message-----
From: Frank <frank@progressivevp.com>
To: vpFREE@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wed, Apr 13, 2011 21:59:05 GMT+00:00
Subject: [vpFREE] Re: $2,478.25 royal on .25 progresives!!!!!!!!!!

Then like Rosanna Rosanna Danna, let me say, "Never Mind".

$2,478.25 just seemed awful low to be playing a quarter. If he had all those
perks it was a good play.

I've only played about 4 quarter progressives this year, but they were all
well over $4,000.

I thought my errant post sparked a good thread topic. See previous posts. I
think my other problem is that I'm too worried about the negative aspects of
gambling to account for anyone doing it "For Fun".

Oh and please feel free to pick. I probably deserve it.

~FK

--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "bobbartop" <bobbartop@...> wrote: Frank,
whatsamattafayou? (or in Italian, "What's your problem?")

The guy said he was at an Indian joint, hence no FPDW. He also said he was
getting double points, also hence that was worth .5%. Even more hence, I'm
pretty sure I know where he is talking about and they have some bounceback.
I wrote to this gentleman to ask, but have not heard back from him yet. If
it's the place I think it is, I play there once in awhile too. The thing
is, on those same machines there is 7-5 Bonus Poker. (7-5, Frank, not 5-7)
I'd play that for a better return any day. I hope this gentleman writes me
back. I'm anxious to ask him about this.

And Frank, I'm only picking on you because you're my idol. You and Micky
both are my idols. I'd pick on him too, but he might kick my ass.

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