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10/7 DB Stategy Question (100.17%)

#1

I need help with a strategy dilemma.

In 10/7 100.17% Double Bonus (DB) with "Max" Units Bet, given the
nine possible hold cases shown below, which are the best to worst
hold decisons.

<Best Hold>

AKQ (Unsuited)
3 Card Flush, includes 1 High Card
QT (Suited)
KJ (Unsuited)
KQ (Unsuited)
AJ (Unsuited)
AQ (Unsuited)
AK (Unsuited)
A
KT (Suited)

<Worst Hold>

Along with your list, I'd appreciate your source of information and
cite a specific Web Page, book, or software.

I have been practicing and studying 10/7 100.17% DB at the following
Web sites. Among these three following sources, within a small
subset of possible hold cards, a contradiction appears to exist among
which of the above cards to hold. These sources include:

A. Wizard of Odds Online 10/7 DB Game & Tutor
www.wizardofodds.com/play/doublebonus/ Online 10/7 DB Game & Tutor;

B. Tom Ski's VPSM Basic 10/7 Double Bonus Strategy List
from the VPFREE web site/link at
http://members.cox.net/vpfree/CDDB.htm (at bottom of Web page);

and

C. On-Line VP Game & Tutor at www.freeslots.com/poker.htm (set to
10/7 double Bonus; Max Bet Units and 1x Pay).

Tom Ski's list shows (in a small segment of his entire list) from
best to worst the following:

<Best>

0.4598 3 FL, 1 Hi Card
0.4576 QT (Suited)
0.4574 KQ, KJ (unsuited)
0.4537 Ace
0.4409 Jack
0.4368 KT (Suited)

<Worst>

His larger list excludes the following cards and where they might fit
into a best to worst hold decision list:

AKQ (unsuited)
AK (unsuited)
AQ (unsuited)
AJ (unsuited)

So, given the nine possible hold cases above, which is the best to
worst hold decison in 10/7 100.17% DB with "Max" Units Bet.

Thanks,

Steve (New VPFree Member)

#2

Have you considered getting either Frugal VP, or WinPoker w/Video
Poker strategy master? Either is about $50 and then you can practice,
and when you make a mistake you can look at the order of the hands
right there. Also you can print your own strategy cards to take with you.

Happy Royals
Jim

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--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "straub4" <straub@s...> wrote:

I need help with a strategy dilemma.

In 10/7 100.17% Double Bonus (DB) with "Max" Units Bet, given the
nine possible hold cases shown below, which are the best to worst
hold decisons.

<Best Hold>

AKQ (Unsuited)
3 Card Flush, includes 1 High Card
QT (Suited)
KJ (Unsuited)
KQ (Unsuited)
AJ (Unsuited)
AQ (Unsuited)
AK (Unsuited)
A
KT (Suited)

<Worst Hold>

Along with your list, I'd appreciate your source of information and
cite a specific Web Page, book, or software.

I have been practicing and studying 10/7 100.17% DB at the following
Web sites. Among these three following sources, within a small
subset of possible hold cards, a contradiction appears to exist among
which of the above cards to hold. These sources include:

A. Wizard of Odds Online 10/7 DB Game & Tutor
www.wizardofodds.com/play/doublebonus/ Online 10/7 DB Game & Tutor;

B. Tom Ski's VPSM Basic 10/7 Double Bonus Strategy List
from the VPFREE web site/link at
http://members.cox.net/vpfree/CDDB.htm (at bottom of Web page);

and

C. On-Line VP Game & Tutor at www.freeslots.com/poker.htm (set to
10/7 double Bonus; Max Bet Units and 1x Pay).

Tom Ski's list shows (in a small segment of his entire list) from
best to worst the following:

<Best>

0.4598 3 FL, 1 Hi Card
0.4576 QT (Suited)
0.4574 KQ, KJ (unsuited)
0.4537 Ace
0.4409 Jack
0.4368 KT (Suited)

<Worst>

His larger list excludes the following cards and where they might fit
into a best to worst hold decision list:

AKQ (unsuited)
AK (unsuited)
AQ (unsuited)
AJ (unsuited)

So, given the nine possible hold cases above, which is the best to
worst hold decison in 10/7 100.17% DB with "Max" Units Bet.

Thanks,

Steve (New VPFree Member)

#3

Without taking penalty cards into account, the proper plays for
the "unlisted" hands you mentioned are as follows:

AKQ (also AKJ)- hold only the KQ or the KJ
AK, AQ, or AJ - hold only the A

The reason they're not listed is that they're not played, as such.

However, for computer-perfect play, penalty cards must be taken into
account, and the rules get much more complicated:

AKH - hold only the KH, but if a 9-penalty card is present (i.e., one
of the other three cards is a 9), hold AKH.

AH - hold only the A, but if BOTH a flush penalty card AND a low-
straight penalty card are present (i.e., one of the other three cards
is the same suit as the A and another, or the same, card is a 2, 3,
4, or 5), hold AH. However the presence of an unsuited 10 (unsuited
with the A0 voids this rule. If an unsuited 10 is present, even with
a flush penalty and a low-straight penalty, hold only the A.

I warned you it was complicated.

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--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "straub4" <straub@s...> wrote:

I need help with a strategy dilemma.

In 10/7 100.17% Double Bonus (DB) with "Max" Units Bet, given the
nine possible hold cases shown below, which are the best to worst
hold decisons.

<Best Hold>

AKQ (Unsuited)
3 Card Flush, includes 1 High Card
QT (Suited)
KJ (Unsuited)
KQ (Unsuited)
AJ (Unsuited)
AQ (Unsuited)
AK (Unsuited)
A
KT (Suited)

<Worst Hold>

#4

<<Have you considered getting either Frugal VP, or WinPoker w/Video
Poker strategy master? Either is about $50 and then you can practice,
and when you make a mistake you can look at the order of the hands
right there. Also you can print your own strategy cards to take with you.>>

The advantage of Frugal VP software is that it is both a tutor AND generates strategy charts you can print out - for only $40 total.

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