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#21

3) If you file a paper return there is no place to list individual W-2Gs, nor are you supposed to return them unless there is tax withheld

---I was told by a CPA that as of this year, 2011, you are no longer able to file paper returns (with a few exceptions.) Can anyone confirm that?

Thanks.

Scot

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From: vpFREE@yahoogroups.com [mailto:vpF…@…com] On Behalf Of Cogno Scienti
Sent: Sunday, March 25, 2012 9:19 AM
To: vpFREE@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [vpFREE] Re: W2G

#22

The no paper rule applies to preparers but not to individuals. This is from the IRS site.

"any tax return preparer who anticipates preparing and filing 11 or more Forms 1040, 1040A, 1040EZ and 1041 during a calendar year must use IRS e-file".

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--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "Scot Krause" <krauseinvegas@...> wrote:

-----Original Message-----
From: vpFREE@yahoogroups.com [mailto:vpF…@…com] On Behalf Of Cogno Scienti
Sent: Sunday, March 25, 2012 9:19 AM
To: vpFREE@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [vpFREE] Re: W2G

3) If you file a paper return there is no place to list individual W-2Gs, nor are you supposed to return them unless there is tax withheld

---I was told by a CPA that as of this year, 2011, you are no longer able to file paper returns (with a few exceptions.) Can anyone confirm that?

Thanks.

Scot

#23

Somebody ought to tell that to Intuit and TurboTax, because I'm printing out mine right now. With accountants like that, it's no wonder our tax system is so screwed up.

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On 3/26/2012 12:14 PM, Scot Krause wrote:

-----Original Message-----
From: vpFREE@yahoogroups.com <mailto:vpFREE%40yahoogroups.com> [mailto:vpF…@…com <mailto:vpFREE%40yahoogroups.com>] On Behalf Of Cogno Scienti
Sent: Sunday, March 25, 2012 9:19 AM
To: vpFREE@yahoogroups.com <mailto:vpFREE%40yahoogroups.com>
Subject: RE: [vpFREE] Re: W2G

3) If you file a paper return there is no place to list individual W-2Gs, nor are you supposed to return them unless there is tax withheld

---I was told by a CPA that as of this year, 2011, you are no longer able to file paper returns (with a few exceptions.) Can anyone confirm that?

#24

Somebody ought to tell that to Intuit and TurboTax, because I'm printing
out mine right now. With accountants like that, it's no wonder our tax
system is so screwed up.

---What?? So you're filing electronically then? If you're using Intuit or
Turbotax? Of course you can print them. That's entirely different from
filing a paper return, longhand written out.

Scot

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From: vpFREE@yahoogroups.com [mailto:vpF…@…com] On Behalf Of
MHS
Sent: Monday, March 26, 2012 11:25 AM
To: vpFREE@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [vpFREE] Re: W2G

#25

Let me clarify that for you. TurboTax has different printing models, for personal use and for submitting to the IRS. I'm printing out at least 20 pages, probably closer to 30.

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On 3/26/2012 4:27 PM, Scot Krause wrote:

-----Original Message-----
From: vpFREE@yahoogroups.com <mailto:vpFREE%40yahoogroups.com> [mailto:vpF…@…com <mailto:vpFREE%40yahoogroups.com>] On Behalf Of
MHS
Sent: Monday, March 26, 2012 11:25 AM
To: vpFREE@yahoogroups.com <mailto:vpFREE%40yahoogroups.com>
Subject: Re: [vpFREE] Re: W2G

Somebody ought to tell that to Intuit and TurboTax, because I'm printing
out mine right now. With accountants like that, it's no wonder our tax
system is so screwed up.

---What?? So you're filing electronically then? If you're using Intuit or
Turbotax? Of course you can print them. That's entirely different from
filing a paper return, longhand written out.

Scot

#26

Let me clarify that for you. TurboTax has different printing models, for
personal use and for submitting to the IRS. I'm printing out at least
20 pages, probably closer to 30.

---Ok, but that is quite different from what my original question was.
Perhaps I was misunderstand. I wanted to know if a person can do a
handwritten paper return, now or in the future, without using software.

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-----Original Message-----
From: vpFREE@yahoogroups.com [mailto:vpF…@…com] On Behalf Of
MHS
Sent: Monday, March 26, 2012 1:52 PM
To: vpFREE@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [vpFREE] Re: W2G

#27

From: vpFREE@yahoogroups.com <mailto:vpFREE%40yahoogroups.com> [mailto:vpF…@…com <mailto:vpFREE%40yahoogroups.com>] On Behalf Of
MHS
Sent: Monday, March 26, 2012 1:52 PM
To: vpFREE@yahoogroups.com <mailto:vpFREE%40yahoogroups.com>
Subject: Re: [vpFREE] Re: W2G

Let me clarify that for you. TurboTax has different printing models, for
personal use and for submitting to the IRS. I'm printing out at least
20 pages, probably closer to 30.

---Ok, but that is quite different from what my original question was.
Perhaps I was misunderstand. I wanted to know if a person can do a
handwritten paper return, now or in the future, without using software.

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On 3/26/2012 4:55 PM, Scot Krause wrote:

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There is no prohibition on that. I have two friends who still write out their returns in longhand.
(No, they are not complete Luddites. Just traditionalists.)

#28

<<I wanted to know if a person can do a handwritten paper return, now or in
the future, without using software. >>

Yes. The requirement to e-file is for professional tax preparers, not
individuals preparing their own return.

Cogno

#29

Disclaimer: The following are facts - not opinion.

Scot,

Of course, you can file on paper! How could someone file electronically,
if they do not own a computer or don't have Internet access?

You misunderstood your CPA. *Public accountants* may only file returns
electronically, if they file more than ten tax returns per year. This does
not mean that the rest of the taxpayers must e-file.

Perhaps, this will help you:
http://www.irs.gov/pub/irs-pdf/i1040.pdf

It states right on the first page: "If you file a paper return, you may be
mailing it to a different address this year."

Luke

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On Mon, Mar 26, 2012 at 9:14 AM, Scot Krause <krauseinvegas@cox.net> wrote:

---I was told by a CPA that as of this year, 2011, you are no longer able
to file paper returns (with a few exceptions.) Can anyone confirm that?

Thanks.

Scot

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#30

Disclaimer: The following are facts - not opinion.

Scot,

Of course, you can file on paper! How could someone file electronically,
if they do not own a computer or don't have Internet access?

---Thanks for everyone's answers. But of course, your question is easily
answered. You would visit your IRS to file (there are huge lines there daily
to do just that!) or a library or hire a tax person to do them or find a
friend with a computer, etc.

You misunderstood your CPA. *Public accountants* may only file returns
electronically, if they file more than ten tax returns per year. This does
not mean that the rest of the taxpayers must e-file.

---That is what I'm sure she is referring to and I misunderstood.

Thanks again to all.

Scot

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-----Original Message-----
From: vpFREE@yahoogroups.com [mailto:vpF…@…com] On Behalf Of
Luke Fuller
Sent: Monday, March 26, 2012 3:26 PM
To: vpFREE@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [vpFREE] W2G