Excellent poiint, Jean! It always takes me a bit of time to adapt to something
new, whether it be a piece of hardware or software. But, if I persevere, the
transition is made and it becomes my new "standard".
bl
--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "Jean Scott" <QueenofComps@f...> wrote:
I wonder if you like the "look and feel" of WinPoker better because
you used it first.
I'm 100% with Harry here. Even without going as far as knowing all or
even any penalty card situations, some simplified strategies still get
close to being perfect. The wizard of odd's simple 9/6 JoB strategy
boils down to 16 lines of strategy; by comparison his optimal strategy
is written in 39 lines plus 6 cases of penalty cards. Yet the simple
strategy plays within 0.08% of being perfect. This intermediate
strategy, in 24 lines, doesn't have any penalty cards and packs in a
few more simplifications compared to the optimal strategy, and plays
within 0.03%.
I believe that I know the optimal strategy with 4 out of the 6
situations where penalty cards are involved (and the other 2
situations don't seem to happen often). That means that on paper I
should be able to play perfectly within an irrelevant fraction of a
percent, right?
Wrong. Absolutely wrong. I make stupid mistakes. Horrible mistakes. I
play too fast. I let myself be distracted which makes not follow the
flow of the game.
Some examples? I seem to miss 4-to-a-flush about once every 400 hands.
That costs me about 0.12%. Missing low pairs seems to cost me about as
much. Missing 3 to a SF isn't far behind, and 4 to an outside straight
follows closely. The worst of all? Approximately once every 1200 hands
I only play one pair our of 2 dealt pairs. That also costs me 0.12%.
Putting all those stupid mistakes together I make more than 0.5% worth
of errors.
Take as an example missing 4-to-a-flush and playing a low pair
instead, which costs a bit over 2 coins on average. Playing a perfect
play in 9/6 JoB except for missing 4-to-a-flush against a low pair
once per hour costs more than playing the simple strategy with no
mistakes.
On the other hand, I can't be entirely sure that I'd play more
accurately if I didn't know a near-optimal strategy with most penalty
card situations. However I'd probably play much more accurately if I
didn't play as fast.
JBQ
On 7/30/05, Harry Porter <harry.porter@verizon.net> wrote:
Anytime I read of someone who takes considerable pride in dealing with
penalty card situations in their play, I strongly suspect that they've
blinded themselves to vulnerabilities in their play unless they've
demonstrated themselves to be among the very most proficient and
knowledgable players.
Jean, will owners of the original Frugal VP software be able to buy an
upgrade or would one have to buy the whole package again (which I
probably would pass on)?
Lin in NJ
<<Jean, will owners of the original Frugal VP software be able to buy an upgrade or would one have to buy the whole package again (which I
probably would pass on)?
It is too early to make these decisions. We'll have to see how much of a change is made. But be assured I will see that there is the most frugal option possible!!!!
________________________________________
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for VP software and strategy cards.
NEW - Blackjack Strategy Cards +
Updated Second Edition of
"The Frugal Gambler."
All this takes me back. It was so much fun to set up a game using VPtutor, start the analysis in the evening so it could be done when I got up the next morning (usally took about 8-10 hours), all to find out the game returned 96.3%!* I didn't own the Wong software, but I was told that VPtutor was a lot faster. In fact, when Winpoker first came out, it was slower than VPtutor (by that time it was minutes, not hours). This was before TomSki had provided some technical assistance that helped Dean Zamzow speed Winpoker up considerably.
Now we can do analysis (and/or create a strategy) in seconds. The amount of analytical power we have at our disposal (for about $30-$40) is stunning.
Skip
jackessiebabe wrote:
In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "Harry Porter" <harry.porter@v...> wrote:
Come'on, Babe -- even today's "toddlers" in their 30's were messing about with first generation pc's long after being out of diapers.
"Not in color"? Gee, sure you just didn't have an appropriate graphics driver installed? This version is dated 1991 -- I purchased it in 1995. (I still have the floppy and also dutifully transfer it from PC to PC)...................................<snip>
Babe, you hold the all time "Die Hard" title in my book. Black and
white tutor play?? The closest I can come to that cross-your-eyes
experience is dabbling with the "4 color suits" option in winpoker
(later versions only, I think). - Harry
---------------------------------------------Well Harry, your mention of not having the "appropriate graphics driver" installed, got me to thinking about those olden days, when I did indeed have an old relic monitor w/o color. However, we got rid of that monitor in the 80's.
I located my original Video Poker Analyzer by Stanford Wong/Pi Yee Press/copyright 1991, and found a letter with the floppy, signed by the president of Villa Crespo Software, Daniel A. Sejzer, CDP. In the letter he thanked me for the order I placed through Casino Player Magazine, for a copy of "Stanford Wong Video Poker". He said that my software would be shipped to me in Oct., 1991. The letter also explained that my order had been delayed because "we are taking extra time to polish and test the powerful professional features we have designed". The letter then went on to state that, as compensation for not receiving my software on a timely basis, they were enclosing, free of charge, Dr. Wong's original software, "Video Poker Analyzer", which was the basis for for the new one that I had ordered. Furthermore, they said, this software "contains all the features of the new one, EXCEPT GRAPHICS, sounds, etc....." Soooooo, I guess I do really remember playing DW in Black & wh.......er green!
Babe
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Two snips from your post
Wrong. Absolutely wrong. I make stupid mistakes. Horrible mistakes. I play
too fast.
However I'd probably play much more accurately if I
didn't play as fast.
Here's a novel idea. Why not just slow down?
Nudge
From: "Jean-Baptiste Queru" <jbqueru@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [vpFREE] Penalty Cards in Play (was Re: VP Training Software -
Heh. Yeah, I make fewer mistakes when playing slower (about 550 HPH),
even though I still made a stupid and costly mistake in practice
yesterday, probably big enough to cost as much as ignoring all the 9/6
JoB penalty card situations for an entire day of play.
JBQ
On 8/2/05, nudge51 <nudge51@cox.net> wrote:
From: "Jean-Baptiste Queru" <jbqueru@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [vpFREE] Penalty Cards in Play (was Re: VP Training Software -
FVPTwo snips from your post
> Wrong. Absolutely wrong. I make stupid mistakes. Horrible mistakes. I play
too fast.> However I'd probably play much more accurately if I
> didn't play as fast.Here's a novel idea. Why not just slow down?
Nudge
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