OEJ is a brutal game to play. Only God can play the 99.98 or 100.28
versions to perfection, and I'm not even sure about that. It makes its
cousin, 9-5 DJW, look like a walk in the park. There's also quite a
bit of variance, similar to DDB, maybe even a little faster in
practice. Certainly faster than DDB if multiline. I find it every now
and then and play it for dollars to kill time (Dick, write me and I'll
send you a list where I've found it, with comments), probably giving
up .25%, maybe more. The problem with OEJ is that on most machines if
the 99.98% game is offered, one will find (in NV) 10-7 DB, 15-11
Deuces or Triple Deuces, or Super Aces, or JW2. The ERs on these games
range from 99.92 to 100.17 ("Mississippi" 10-7 is 99.79, I believe),
all of these games I play close to perfect and statistically speaking,
I'm not giving up much. Dick has a situation in the midwest where the
OEJ is the only playable game around.
Let me put Bob, Linda and Dick in perspective. Bob is an accomplished
machines pro who wasn't satisfied taking the casino's money, he had to
rub it in by publishing. It's the teachers who have hurt my EV the
most, because a) they are sticking it in the face of the slots execs
who they are infinitely smarter than, and b) creating a situation
where too many players know how to play correctly, which causes holds
to drop and offers and situations to decrease. Frankly, I will be
surprised if one could make $100K/yr in EV playing VP within 5 years.
I will say this much: one of the keys to my success over the years was
by playing as little as possible in Las Vegas, either on the Strip or
in the locals joints. Bob, of course, rarely travels outside of Vegas,
unless the play is off the charts or he's getting paid to do so.
Linda is a well meaning enough lady who wrote a book on VP, which is
her passion. I can't comment on the book because I haven't read it.
She, like many writers, appear to be at least minimally knowledgable
on VP enough to write for publications. I did answer Bob's question
that JT over J is the proper hold, qualifiying this. I don't believe
she would actually advocate this in the book, but the ensuing debate
was painful to read on both sides.
Dick is a guy who is like me, we're obviously spiritually both from
Memphis, if you get my drift (because we don't like things easy, we
like them rough). Actually, they had 100.28 at Grand in Tunica for
quarters for a while several years ago, but I digress...His cheat
sheet for OEJ is a work of art. I actually used it once, on a short
but lucrative (though I got killed on it) $5 play a couple years ago.
This was on a bartop in the middle of nowhere, and everyone else was
too drunk to notice. It wasn't like I brought it over to the high
limit area at Caesars and started pounding away. I occasionally use
homemade cheat sheets for Multistrike, but even then, I have the Jacks
and Bonus down cold.
While I like most everyone here, very few people I professionally
respect. Dick is one of those people.
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--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "mroejacks" <rgmustain@...> wrote:
--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "treyrivers88" <treyrivers88@>
wrote:
>
> > Harry, I'll be happy to debate this with you. (Debating with
mroejacks
> > or TR, likely the same person, is pointless.)
>
> LOL, anyone that agrees with mroejacks is the same person? I can
> promise you that I am not mroejacks. I've only played one-eyed
jacks
> once in my entire life so there is no way I could be Mr. One-Eyed.
> (Based on a recent post by Dick, I am assuming that is what
mroejacks
> stands for)Yes, that is what it stands for. I developed a strategy for the game
years ago and have given it to several members of this forum
including Paladin, Jean Scott, Skip Hughes and Howard Stern (among
many others). I have also posted a strategy for Blackjack Bonus Poker
on this forum. To my knowledge I am the only one to ever provide it.
I have also done game analysis work for VP Pros including the late
(and most admired) Elliott Shapiro. I've also been involved in beta
testing VP products.So much for Bob's claims that I am neither "knowledgeable"
or "respected".
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