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--- In FREEvpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "Cogno Scienti" <cognoscienti@g...>
wrote:

I'll put up whatever you set your win goal at. If you want me to put

up the same as you, set your win goal to the same as your loss goal.
But since you claim to be able to win a session "almost at will," you
shouldn't begrudge the seven-to-one odds. I claim you can't beat the
math, and if you chicken out of this bet you will have conceded the
point.

You want to bet me then you bet even money like a man. 7:1 odds is the
same as you're weaseling out of the bet even before you shutter at the
thought of me accepting it. You're such a wimp. You either make a bet
that's equal for both parties or squirm away in disgrace with your tail
between your legs. I say I win, you say I don't. Now's your chance to
walk the walk instead of doing what you do best--talk the talk.

<<You want to bet me then you bet even money like a man. 7:1 odds is the
same as you're weaseling out of the bet even before you shutter at the
thought of me accepting it. You're such a wimp. You either make a bet that's
equal for both parties or squirm away in disgrace with your tail between
your legs. I say I win, you say I don't. Now's your chance to walk the walk
instead of doing what you do best--talk the talk.>>

Ah, so now we know what "I can win almost at will" means. It means you're so
scared of losing that you won't lay more than 50-50 odds. Once again the
fraud has been defrocked.

Tell you what, though. I'll bet you $17,200 even money that you won't win
$2500 before you lose the $17,200 playing your system on negative games,
PROVIDED you also bet me even money for $17,200 that I can't get at least
one Heads if I flip a coin ten times. Deal?

"Real men bet even money." --Cogno Scienti

Cogno

--- In FREEvpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "rgmustain" <rgmustain@a...>

wrote:

> > Here's the RS movie strategy for use anytime you'd like to step
up
> in
> > the world: See a REALISTIC movie that doesn't make nerds pee
their
> > pants in excitement every time a goober pushes a button on his
> laptop
> > and creates theoretical scenes only a director could love.
>
> Based on your previous posts I assume this is where Pee Wee

Herman

> comes into play. You must think his movies were realistic. LMAO
again.

Nope, and leave it to a geek not to get it.

Leave it to you to make another idiotic comeback. It was clear to
everyone else that I not only "got it" but turned it back in your
face. Your problem is that YOU didn't see it coming.

>
> I've talked with Elliott several times. He's a very sharp and
> intelligent AP. Your jealousy is showing.

So have I, and I agree he's intelligent and believes in how he

plays.

Doesn't take away from the fact that you & he are two of a kind
though.

Thank you.

"AP's" is the self-confidence building term you people use to
gently describe problem gamblers, and you both know it.

You are about the biggest idiot on the face of the earth. Self
confidence has nothing to do with gambling and AP is simply the abbr.
for advantage player. Please keep making these insane remarks so
everyone can see just how moronic you've become. Could it be you've
been hitting the booze again?

To spend as
much time as you do in casinos with your wife, as does he, dictates
that label's accuracy.

No, it just shows that you will say anything to further your own
agenda. You keep pissing and moaning about other peoples' problems
when you should be looking in the mirror and vomiting.

I just don't know how people can do such
things. I was always taught to stay away from degeneracy in my

mature

years, which is one of the main reasons why I spend so little time
inside unhealthy venues such as casinos. Apparently you never got

the

message.

Nope. The rest of us view "degeneracy" to be lieing and promoting a
fraudulent system. Visiting clean, modern casinos is considered by
most people to be entertainment. Maybe you need to catch up with the
times. It's no longer the 60's with smoke filled rooms and the rest
of us already know that.

> > Ego comes with being the best

> No, it has nothing to do with it. Look it up in a dictionary. A
more admirable trait is self confidence. Self confidence comes with
being knowledgeable about the things you choose to do. Clearly,

this

is something that you are severely lacking.

Yes, ego comes with being the best--which I clearly am.

The "best" liar ... I'll concede that one to you. As for anything
else, you are just a pathetic loser who spends most of his time
trying to be something he will never become ... somebody.

Self-
confidence is a given for someone like me, who doesn't have to

fight

off the demons you guys do as you enter through casino doors at an
uncanny pace all the time. When the term self-confidence is used

with

AP's, it required in order to keep your sanity about you since you
know what you're doing is wrong and stupid.

We know what were doing works. We've done it for years. We don't need
to yell to everyone, "Hey, look at me" like you do. If only you could
see just how pathetic you look to the rest of us.

> I see he just took you up on the bet. He factored in the multiple
> progressions into the bet. Are you going start weaseling now or
throw out more monkey boy rhetoric before changing the subject.

He doesn't need you to make his excuses for him, although you're a
master at doing that. I've accepted obviously, but only if we both
put up the same money. I don't give odds--he called me a liar and
now's his time to put up or shut up and look the fool he is. Just
like you, he's wiggled his way out even before he started. I told

him

I'm taking the whole session bankroll along, but I'm guessing he'll
pee his pants if he sees that much money at one time.

More weaseling. He made a fair challenge. Either have to guts to
accept it of forever admit you have NO faith in your own system.

> I get it. You've now removed all reference to the proof that your
> mythical math guys exist from this thread. It appears you've been
> caught running from yet another bet. Proving, once again, that

you

> are a liar.

When you clarify your bet then I'll accept it.

Hmmm. How many times will it take. I've already clarified it for you
at least twice after the original challenge. Obviously, this is just
your way to backing out. Here I'll make it easier for you. Just cut
and paste the following: "Huh, what did you say? Sorry I didn't hear
you. What's that again?"

You are so pathetic.

> > >Your use of the aces_hii id is even more verification.
> >
> > You're getting nervous again so you bring the same old news up.
>
> Old, new, doesn't matter. It still shows you are a liar.

Prove it. C'mon dicky. Show us some of that good old fashioned geek
logic!

The evidence is in all of your posts. However, we already know you're
a pathetic loser and will deny the obvious.

> > There's your faulty long-term explanation leaking out again!

> One more content free response from the master of content free
> responses.

Since you don't get it, content-free seems to be what makes you
comfortable without constant squirming when facing me. I've allowed
you to save face a number of times in the past few days. Like when

I

admonished you for trying to sluff off the family gambling problem
onto your wife.

Ho hum. Still trying to pass off this BS when you've never met me or
my wife. Just more evidence that you are about the MOST pathetic
loser ever.

I know that's an uncomfortable subject for you to
take on because just the mere viewing of it here gives you the

guilt

of the century. But hey, you made your bed!

More ho hum. Wake me up when you have something new or even the
slightest bit intelligent to say.

> > Good for you again. A single session for me is one in which I

win

a minimum of $2500 and quit. The # of hands you're so interested in
> has no bearing.

> So, now you're claiming you win win every time? It must be

because

> you just called it a "single session". So, once again, you resort
to obvious lies to hide your scam.

At an 87% clip, what's the difference when slapping down a nerd

like

you. You're so envious of me and my abilities that whether or not i
won every time, you'd be at your max-hate level either way.

Gee ... where have I heard this BS before. Oh, that's right from the
monkey boy himself. Over and over again. Too bad absolutely NO ONE
else will back you up. It must be pretty lonely at the bottem where
you rant and rave and get nowhere.

> > Yeah right. +$2500 certainly is NEGATIVE, Dopey.

> Anyone can win at almost any game. Lotteries are the best example
of
> that. It still doesn't change the future expectation. It is and
> always will be that you will lose at negative games.

Leave it to you not to respond to the statement.

Can't you read. Everyone else can. I just completely refuted your
claim by showing it is no more valid than a lottery win for
determining whether a game is positive or negative. Only a complete
idiot would have missed it.

> > Only a mystified
> > geek like you would ever worry about EV BEFORE the session is
> > completed.

> Only a scammer, promoting a fraudulent system would NOT worry

about

> the EV if they want to maximize their chances at winning. But

then,

> we already knew that.

If I didn't maximize my chances of winning, bozo, why would Congo
seek to make a lopsided bet in his favor?? Hello McFly!! That's

what

true expectation is.

Cogno made a fair bet that you claim you have an 87% chance of
winning. If you don't accept it, as is, then you are admitting you
have no faith in your system. Could it be that you were lieing all
along? Sure looks like it.

> > Good again, Einstein! Now we're talking on the same frequency.

I

> > expect TO WIN and win often, and continue to win. You're making
> this easy....like pie in the sky!
>
> OK then, why didn't take up Cogno on his bet? The only logical
answer
> is that you are AFRAID you will lose. Of course, this means your
last
> statement is simply another lie. Not so easy when the facts say

the

> exact opposite of your lieing words.

Read my response to him and then feel stupid you said that.

More of your weaseling. It's a fair bet. Either accept it or admit
you have no faith in your system.

> > Ask them
> > if they would rather make the 'safe' play--and oh yes, $2250 in
> > phantom bucks--or go home with $40,000 in cash?? Let me laugh

at

> you now, I just can't hold it in any longer....HAHAHAHAHA!
>
> Or .... go home minus $57,500 in cash. "HAHAHAHAHA" For every one
of your ridiculous assertions there are just as many valid ones

that

I can provide. And, in my case, I have 100% provable mathematical
> evidence to support my case.

And I have 100% mathematical evidence to support the numbers on my
site.

No you don't. You won't even take my bet that you have any
mathematical evidence to support your system. Put your money where
you mouth is.
  

>
> > > > More non-responsive doubletalk. Answer the question.
> > >
> > > I did. I thought you believed statistics was all mumbo-jumbo.
> > > However, if you want to hold a rational discussion about

future

> > > possibilities using statistical analysis, I'd be happy to
oblige.
> >
> > From what I've seen of you here and on Winpoker, you're all

talk

> with
> > no substance, and a person of my education wouldn't waste time
> > talking statistical analyses to a low-class, addicted video

poker

> > playing programmer like you.
>
> Translation: You have no idea how to discuss statistical analysis.

I kinda think it says you're not as educated as I am, programmers

at

the companies I worked

And I believe we previously discovered you haven't been able to hold
down a job. Gee, I wonder why ...

for were a dime-a-dozen who performed a
service at a much lower rate than the engineers as they helped

build

what I designed,

Lie. How do you design a wire?

and as such, you're hardly in the same class as I
am.

Hmmmm. This sounds a lot like typical monkey boy talk. As we've seen
in the past it is almost all complete fabrication. By the way, is
your wife still bringing home the bacon? Too bad you could never hold
down a real job.

Since you been trying to discover just who I am for a long time now,
I'll give you a little to chew on. I graduated from college with
batchelor of mathematics degree from UMIT, worked for 30 years for
IBM as a operating system designer/developer, where, among many other
things I authored 4 patents and my last project alone generated over
a BILLION dollars of revenue for the company over a 3 year period. I
put away enough money to retire at age 52 without ever having to work
again.

If you really want more. The last project I mentioned was completely
defined by me and sold internally despite naysayers such as yourself.
I also worked with marketing experts to FORECAST the sales and
develop marketing plans.

Awaiting more lies about YOUR accomplishments. Don't forget to tell
us about your "diplomas 'r us" degrees.

> > All casinos care about is daily, weekly, monthly, quarterly and
> > yearly take. You have no sense for business either.
>
> What an absolutely idiotic remark. It is so stupid that it is
almost inconceivable that an adult could make it. You just stated
that a multi-billion dollar industry does not do future projections
and make business decisions based on these projections. ROTFLMAO.

Deciphering that you have no business sense is absolutely easy to

do.

Then do it. Say just one intelligent thing. Please.

Just look at the incredulous remarks you make and then think about

it

for a bit. Future projections? Five year plans?? Nothing but

guesses--

Clearly, you never worked for ANY big companies. Even small companies
are using easily available software to make the same type of
projections. What is most obvious is that you have no idea how the
business world is run these days. When did you get out of prison?

just like live poker players who try to win make. And here's

another

hint for the inexperienced. Business decisions aren't made on
projections UNLESS the cash is coming in NOW. How stupid can you

be?

The cash that's coming in now is due to business
projections/decisions made previously. Please keep making these
idiotic remarks. You are completely brainless.

The USA doesn't run businesses on theory,

Now you've heard it yourself. American businesses do not do market
projections. This has come to you in brilliant black and white from
what must be the biggest idiot of our times.

and thank God few if any
CEO's are addicted to video poker as badly as you are. We'd all be
speaking Pakistani!

I see, Pakistani is now a new language. Is that similar to Irani, or
maybe Afganistani ... how about Syriai. LMAO. Have another drink,
monkey boy.

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--- In FREEvpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "aces_hii" <aces_hii@y...> wrote:

--- In FREEvpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "Cogno Scienti" <cognoscienti@g...>
wrote:

"Real men bet even money." --Cogno Scienti

Yes, read it and figure it out.

> Nope, and leave it to a geek not to get it.

Leave it to you to make another idiotic comeback. It was clear to
everyone else that I not only "got it" but turned it back in your
face. Your problem is that YOU didn't see it coming.

You're so corny at times. It's not entirely your fault though, as I'm
sure you'll blame you're being a nerd on your parents or someone
other than you. Next time you talk about movies, see more than one
first....and make sure they're all not fantasy-types so you can get a
good cross-section of what's out there in the real world.

> So have I, and I agree he's intelligent and believes in how he
plays.
> Doesn't take away from the fact that you & he are two of a kind
> though.

Thank you.

I suppose.....if you're into that sort of thing.

> "AP's" is the self-confidence building term you people use to
> gently describe problem gamblers, and you both know it.

You are about the biggest idiot on the face of the earth. Self
confidence has nothing to do with gambling and AP is simply the

abbr.

for advantage player. Please keep making these insane remarks so
everyone can see just how moronic you've become. Could it be you've
been hitting the booze again?

I've been humiliating the term "AP" since before you got addicted to
the game. Now read my statement again, and weep some more.

> To spend as
> much time as you do in casinos with your wife, as does he,

dictates

> that label's accuracy.

No, it just shows that you will say anything to further your own
agenda. You keep pissing and moaning about other peoples' problems
when you should be looking in the mirror and vomiting.

Oh, but it's YOU who announce your problems and it is YOU who wish I
had some. But because I live a life of common sense and not one of an
endless revolution around some stupid math model that justifies
playing video poker far more than I should, you keep getting upset.
Oh well, I'll just sit back, relax, and ENJOY!! as you wallow in your
own sorrow.

Nope. The rest of us view "degeneracy" to be lieing and promoting a
fraudulent system. Visiting clean, modern casinos is considered by
most people to be entertainment. Maybe you need to catch up with

the times. It's no longer the 60's with smoke filled rooms and the
rest of us already know that.

More self-justification. Is there never an end to your lunacy?
  

> Yes, ego comes with being the best--which I clearly am.

The "best" liar ... I'll concede that one to you. As for anything
else, you are just a pathetic loser who spends most of his time
trying to be something he will never become ... somebody.

Now you're into fantasy again. But what else could you say to ease
the pain......

We know what were doing works. We've done it for years.

Now THERE's somrthing to be proud of. "Honey, lets go to the casino
YET AGAIN today and gamble until we're both tired, seeing how many
points we can pile up" "Remember, if we lose we won, because we're
making $25/hour losing"!!! HAHAHA!!! Talk about pathetic!

We don't need

to yell to everyone, "Hey, look at me" like you do. If only you

could see just how pathetic you look to the rest of us.

Translation: More jealousy. And Lovin' It!

> He doesn't need you to make his excuses for him, although you're

a

> master at doing that. I've accepted obviously, but only if we

both

> put up the same money. I don't give odds--he called me a liar and
> now's his time to put up or shut up and look the fool he is. Just
> like you, he's wiggled his way out even before he started. I told
him
> I'm taking the whole session bankroll along, but I'm guessing

he'll

> pee his pants if he sees that much money at one time.

More weaseling. He made a fair challenge. Either have to guts to
accept it of forever admit you have NO faith in your own system.

Lalalalalala. Even money or the walk isn't walked.
   

> When you clarify your bet then I'll accept it.

Hmmm. How many times will it take. I've already clarified it for

you at least twice after the original challenge. Obviously, this is
just your way to backing out. Here I'll make it easier for you. Just
cut and paste the following: "Huh, what did you say? Sorry I didn't
hear you. What's that again?"

Your weasel words don't mean a thing to the educated. Post a real bet
that's not changinging with the wind or face humiliation again.
  

The evidence is in all of your posts. However, we already know

you're a pathetic loser and will deny the obvious.

That's supposed to be a strong post??
     

I
> admonished you for trying to sluff off the family gambling

problem

> onto your wife.

Ho hum. Still trying to pass off this BS when you've never met me

or my wife. Just more evidence that you are about the MOST pathetic

loser ever.

Sore spot, huh?

> I know that's an uncomfortable subject for you to
> take on because just the mere viewing of it here gives you the
guilt
> of the century. But hey, you made your bed!

More ho hum. Wake me up when you have something new or even the
slightest bit intelligent to say.

I guess it's beginning to have a more profound effect.......
   

> At an 87% clip, what's the difference when slapping down a nerd
like
> you. You're so envious of me and my abilities that whether or not

i

> won every time, you'd be at your max-hate level either way.

Gee ... where have I heard this BS before. Oh, that's right from

the

monkey boy himself. Over and over again. Too bad absolutely NO ONE
else will back you up. It must be pretty lonely at the bottem where
you rant and rave and get nowhere.

Um, I, unlike you and Congo and all the other slide rule geeks out
there, don't need anyone to 'back me up'. I'm the top dog and you all
know it, which is why you're irritated with me. Still Lovin' it!!
  

> > > Yeah right. +$2500 certainly is NEGATIVE, Dopey.
>
> > Anyone can win at almost any game. Lotteries are the best

example of that. It still doesn't change the future expectation. It
is and always will be that you will lose at negative games.

> Leave it to you not to respond to the statement.

Can't you read. Everyone else can. I just completely refuted your
claim by showing it is no more valid than a lottery win for
determining whether a game is positive or negative. Only a complete
idiot would have missed it.

And can't you read WITH UNDERSTANDING? Future expectation other than
expecting to win at least 87% of the time with an overall very high
yearly profit, is meaningless and even worse--geek-like. You're
always saying winning $2500 is meaningless the moment you walk away,
but that's bitterness talk by a loser.
  

> If I didn't maximize my chances of winning, bozo, why would Congo
> seek to make a lopsided bet in his favor?? Hello McFly!! That's
what true expectation is.

Cogno made a fair bet that you claim you have an 87% chance of
winning. If you don't accept it, as is, then you are admitting you
have no faith in your system. Could it be that you were lieing all
along? Sure looks like it.

Congo's a sissy-bettor just like you. He, like you, spend lots of
energy saying I don't win what I say I do, but then when it's time to
bet, the real fear shows thru. "But gee Rob, you just may win like
you say, but just to be fair to a wimp like me I want 7:1 odds".
You've sissified him into your mold. Everyone knows I should win, and
if you two are so certain that I'll probably win then you should't
say I won't win when there's no money on the line, and don't insult
me by begging for odds.
  

> > Or .... go home minus $57,500 in cash. "HAHAHAHAHA" For every

one

> of your ridiculous assertions there are just as many valid ones
that
> I can provide. And, in my case, I have 100% provable mathematical
> > evidence to support my case.
>
> And I have 100% mathematical evidence to support the numbers on

my

> site.

No you don't. You won't even take my bet that you have any
mathematical evidence to support your system. Put your money where
you mouth is.

Yes I do, and I'll bet any amount you want because I have far more
money than you do, that i can provide evidence. Just lay out the
specific terms of your bet without all the squirming that you're so
used to doing, and let's see if you can do it WITHOUT an escape
clause for a change.

> > > From what I've seen of you here and on Winpoker, you're all
talk
> > with
> > > no substance, and a person of my education wouldn't waste

time

> > > talking statistical analyses to a low-class, addicted video
poker
> > > playing programmer like you.
> >
> > Translation: You have no idea how to discuss statistical

analysis.

>
> I kinda think it says you're not as educated as I am, programmers
at the companies I worked

And I believe we previously discovered you haven't been able to

hold

down a job. Gee, I wonder why ...

Now stick with the subjext and not any of your fantasies.

> for were a dime-a-dozen who performed a
> service at a much lower rate than the engineers as they helped
build what I designed,

Lie. How do you design a wire?

What 'wire' ??

> and as such, you're hardly in the same class as I
> am.

Hmmmm. This sounds a lot like typical monkey boy talk. As we've

seen

in the past it is almost all complete fabrication. By the way, is
your wife still bringing home the bacon? Too bad you could never

hold down a real job.

Yup. My wife works and makes 6 figures as an engineer at an aerospace
firm over here, where she's been for 23 years. Kinda makes your
addict wife pale in comparison, don'tcha think dicky??

Since you been trying to discover just who I am for a long time

now,

I'll give you a little to chew on. I graduated from college with
batchelor of mathematics degree from UMIT, worked for 30 years for
IBM as a operating system designer/developer, where, among many

other

things I authored 4 patents and my last project alone generated

over

a BILLION dollars of revenue for the company over a 3 year period.

I put away enough money to retire at age 52 without ever having to
work again.

If you really want more. The last project I mentioned was

completely

defined by me and sold internally despite naysayers such as

yourself.

I also worked with marketing experts to FORECAST the sales and
develop marketing plans.

Oh my God!! A geek with pride!!! UMIT?? What's that--the University
of Massachusetts In Tanglewood? I had a slew of engineers working for
me who authored patents. Big deal. I retired before you did with a
life of experience behind me all over the world from working for 2
major aerospace firms and 10 years with the US Gov't. However, the
most glaring difference between you & I is that I went thru being an
addict BEFORE I retired, while you are caught up in pathological
gambling at an even worse time--when you have plenty of time to get
roped in to casinos day in and day out! It's a pathetic existence of
no value and you know it. and to have dragged your wife into the same
rut as you in both your declining years is unspeakable. That would
really bother me, but you, as someone to whpm gambling is the
everything of life, it just goes right on thru that patented hole in
your head. Congratulations on your lifelong accomplishments, and for
taking the time to try and feel good about yourself once again with a
blast from the past, now that you've chosen to proclaim your life as
basically over....

> Deciphering that you have no business sense is absolutely easy to
do.

Then do it. Say just one intelligent thing. Please.

You are completely brainless.

> and thank God few if any
> CEO's are addicted to video poker as badly as you are. We'd all

be

> speaking Pakistani!

I see, Pakistani is now a new language. Is that similar to Irani,

or

maybe Afganistani ... how about Syriai. LMAO. Have another drink,
monkey boy.

Are you getting it?? I've never seen more precise evidence that
someone hasn't a clue as to what constitutes business sense. Maybe
you ought to patent THAT!

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--- In FREEvpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "rgmustain" <rgmustain@a...> wrote:

--- In FREEvpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "rgmustain" <rgmustain@a...>

wrote:

> > Nope, and leave it to a geek not to get it.
>
> Leave it to you to make another idiotic comeback. It was clear to
> everyone else that I not only "got it" but turned it back in your
> face. Your problem is that YOU didn't see it coming.

You're so corny at times. It's not entirely your fault though, as

I'm

sure you'll blame you're being a nerd on your parents or someone
other than you. Next time you talk about movies, see more than one
first....and make sure they're all not fantasy-types so you can get

a

good cross-section of what's out there in the real world.

Only a moron like you would go on and on about single movie. I didn't
mention other movies I've seen (like Seabiscut) just so you'd do
exactly this. It's the same when I mention playing golf. You can't
help but ridicule anything that an intellignet AP would do. It's
really humorous to the rest of us.

> > "AP's" is the self-confidence building term you people use to
> > gently describe problem gamblers, and you both know it.
>
> You are about the biggest idiot on the face of the earth. Self
> confidence has nothing to do with gambling and AP is simply the
abbr.
> for advantage player. Please keep making these insane remarks so
> everyone can see just how moronic you've become. Could it be

you've

> been hitting the booze again?

I've been humiliating the term "AP" since before you got addicted

to

the game. Now read my statement again, and weep some more.

The only person you EVER "humiliate" is yourself. As the Don Quixote
of the gambling world your efforts only serve to make you appear
idiotic and quite the fool.

> > To spend as
> > much time as you do in casinos with your wife, as does he,
dictates
> > that label's accuracy.
>
> No, it just shows that you will say anything to further your own
> agenda. You keep pissing and moaning about other peoples'

problems

> when you should be looking in the mirror and vomiting.

Oh, but it's YOU who announce your problems and it is YOU who wish

I

had some.

Your problems are obvious to everyone.

But because I live a life of common sense and not one of an
endless revolution around some stupid math model that justifies
playing video poker far more than I should, you keep getting upset.
Oh well, I'll just sit back, relax, and ENJOY!! as you wallow in

your

own sorrow.

How are those windmills? A little rougher than you thought?

> Nope. The rest of us view "degeneracy" to be lieing and promoting

a

> fraudulent system. Visiting clean, modern casinos is considered

by

> most people to be entertainment. Maybe you need to catch up with
the times. It's no longer the 60's with smoke filled rooms and the
rest of us already know that.

More self-justification. Is there never an end to your lunacy?

Just the facts, monkey boy. Isn't it interesting that when you visit
a casino all you can do is talk about all the wonderous things you
do, and when you wish to defend your scam system by denigrating
others, you say EXACTLY THE OPPOSITE. You can't have it both ways.

> > Yes, ego comes with being the best--which I clearly am.
>
> The "best" liar ... I'll concede that one to you. As for anything
> else, you are just a pathetic loser who spends most of his time
> trying to be something he will never become ... somebody.

Now you're into fantasy again. But what else could you say to ease
the pain......

Just the facts, monkey boy.

> We know what were doing works. We've done it for years.

Now THERE's somrthing to be proud of. "Honey, lets go to the casino
YET AGAIN today and gamble until we're both tired, seeing how many
points we can pile up" "Remember, if we lose we won, because we're
making $25/hour losing"!!! HAHAHA!!! Talk about pathetic!

LMAO. It really gets to you to see a successful AP who knows you and
your system are a fraud. We've already seen this EXACT same baloney
from you a thousand times. It's like water off a ducks' back. We all
know you do this because you can no longer defend your system so you
attempt to attack the messenger. You are so obvious and so stupid it
makes me chuckle everytime you do this.

> > He doesn't need you to make his excuses for him, although

you're

a
> > master at doing that. I've accepted obviously, but only if we
both
> > put up the same money. I don't give odds--he called me a liar

and

> > now's his time to put up or shut up and look the fool he is.

Just

> > like you, he's wiggled his way out even before he started. I

told

> him
> > I'm taking the whole session bankroll along, but I'm guessing
he'll
> > pee his pants if he sees that much money at one time.
>
> More weaseling. He made a fair challenge. Either have to guts to
> accept it of forever admit you have NO faith in your own system.

Lalalalalala. Even money or the walk isn't walked.
   
> > When you clarify your bet then I'll accept it.
>
> Hmmm. How many times will it take. I've already clarified it for
you at least twice after the original challenge. Obviously, this is
just your way to backing out. Here I'll make it easier for you.

Just

cut and paste the following: "Huh, what did you say? Sorry I didn't
hear you. What's that again?"

Your weasel words don't mean a thing to the educated. Post a real

bet

that's not changinging with the wind or face humiliation again.

Why, so you can back out ONE MORE TIME. Three times is enough for me
and everyone else to see you as a sniveling mamas' boy who can't
admit when he's been caught in yet another lie.

> The evidence is in all of your posts. However, we already know
you're a pathetic loser and will deny the obvious.

That's supposed to be a strong post??

To anyone of any intelligence. But, let me spell it out for the
intellectually challenged. Your fake id, aces_hii, is included in
everything you post.

> I
> > admonished you for trying to sluff off the family gambling
problem
> > onto your wife.
>
> Ho hum. Still trying to pass off this BS when you've never met me
or my wife. Just more evidence that you are about the MOST pathetic
> loser ever.

Sore spot, huh?

Nope. How are those windmills coming?

> > I know that's an uncomfortable subject for you to
> > take on because just the mere viewing of it here gives you the
> guilt
> > of the century. But hey, you made your bed!
>
> More ho hum. Wake me up when you have something new or even the
> slightest bit intelligent to say.

I guess it's beginning to have a more profound effect.......

Even more ho hum. I'm glad I got some sleep or these content free
responses of yours would make my eyelids very heavy.

> > At an 87% clip, what's the difference when slapping down a nerd
> like
> > you. You're so envious of me and my abilities that whether or

not

i
> > won every time, you'd be at your max-hate level either way.
>
> Gee ... where have I heard this BS before. Oh, that's right from
the
> monkey boy himself. Over and over again. Too bad absolutely NO

ONE

> else will back you up. It must be pretty lonely at the bottem

where

> you rant and rave and get nowhere.

Um, I, unlike you and Congo and all the other slide rule geeks out
there, don't need anyone to 'back me up'. I'm the top dog and you

all

know it, which is why you're irritated with me. Still Lovin' it!!

Yawn. The monkey boy at his best. He has absolutely nothing to say to
support his system so he stands up, beats on his chest and
unknowningly makes a fool of himself once again.

> > > > Yeah right. +$2500 certainly is NEGATIVE, Dopey.
> >
> > > Anyone can win at almost any game. Lotteries are the best
example of that. It still doesn't change the future expectation. It
is and always will be that you will lose at negative games.

> > Leave it to you not to respond to the statement.
>
> Can't you read. Everyone else can. I just completely refuted your
> claim by showing it is no more valid than a lottery win for
> determining whether a game is positive or negative. Only a

complete

> idiot would have missed it.

And can't you read WITH UNDERSTANDING?

I read just fine and, once again, showed just how stupid you can be.

Future expectation other than
expecting to win at least 87% of the time with an overall very high
yearly profit, is meaningless and even worse--geek-like. You're
always saying winning $2500 is meaningless the moment you walk

away,

but that's bitterness talk by a loser.

I see it really irritates you look like an idiot. You must get
irritated quite often. So, let me say it once again. Any winning or
losing session is MEANINGLESS. It has nothing to do with future
expectation. You'd have us all believe that anyone who wins the
lottery is a SURE thing to win it the next time they play.

> > If I didn't maximize my chances of winning, bozo, why would

Congo

> > seek to make a lopsided bet in his favor?? Hello McFly!! That's
> what true expectation is.

> Cogno made a fair bet that you claim you have an 87% chance of
> winning. If you don't accept it, as is, then you are admitting

you

> have no faith in your system. Could it be that you were lieing

all

> along? Sure looks like it.

Congo's a sissy-bettor just like you. He, like you, spend lots of
energy saying I don't win what I say I do, but then when it's time

to

bet, the real fear shows thru. "But gee Rob, you just may win like
you say, but just to be fair to a wimp like me I want 7:1 odds".
You've sissified him into your mold. Everyone knows I should win,

and

if you two are so certain that I'll probably win then you should't
say I won't win when there's no money on the line, and don't insult
me by begging for odds.

LMAO. Don't get all in tither just because Cogno has shown you up
with a completely fair bet (if you really believed in your system
you'd take it). Just have another drink and ask your wife for some
more money. The malls will be open soon and you can go buy some new
panties to make you feel better.

> > > Or .... go home minus $57,500 in cash. "HAHAHAHAHA" For every
one
> > of your ridiculous assertions there are just as many valid ones
> that
> > I can provide. And, in my case, I have 100% provable

mathematical

> > > evidence to support my case.
> >
> > And I have 100% mathematical evidence to support the numbers on
my
> > site.
>
> No you don't. You won't even take my bet that you have any
> mathematical evidence to support your system. Put your money

where

> you mouth is.

Yes I do, and I'll bet any amount you want because I have far more
money than you do, that i can provide evidence. Just lay out the
specific terms of your bet without all the squirming that you're so
used to doing, and let's see if you can do it WITHOUT an escape
clause for a change.

We've already been down this path. You chickened out.

> > > > From what I've seen of you here and on Winpoker, you're all
> talk
> > > with
> > > > no substance, and a person of my education wouldn't waste
time
> > > > talking statistical analyses to a low-class, addicted video
> poker
> > > > playing programmer like you.
> > >
> > > Translation: You have no idea how to discuss statistical
analysis.
> >
> > I kinda think it says you're not as educated as I am,

programmers

> at the companies I worked
>
> And I believe we previously discovered you haven't been able to
hold
> down a job. Gee, I wonder why ...

Now stick with the subjext and not any of your fantasies.

Translation: The truth really hurts.

> > and as such, you're hardly in the same class as I
> > am.
>
> Hmmmm. This sounds a lot like typical monkey boy talk. As we've
seen
> in the past it is almost all complete fabrication. By the way, is
> your wife still bringing home the bacon? Too bad you could never
hold down a real job.

Yup. My wife works and makes 6 figures as an engineer at an

aerospace

firm over here, where she's been for 23 years. Kinda makes your
addict wife pale in comparison, don'tcha think dicky??

My wife retired a long time ago. She was able to do other things
because I had a real job and brought in more than enough money for
the both of us. I guess that makes you a lot like my wife.

> Since you been trying to discover just who I am for a long time
now,
> I'll give you a little to chew on. I graduated from college with
> batchelor of mathematics degree from UMIT, worked for 30 years

for

> IBM as a operating system designer/developer, where, among many
other
> things I authored 4 patents and my last project alone generated
over
> a BILLION dollars of revenue for the company over a 3 year

period.

I put away enough money to retire at age 52 without ever having to
work again.
>
> If you really want more. The last project I mentioned was
completely
> defined by me and sold internally despite naysayers such as
yourself.
> I also worked with marketing experts to FORECAST the sales and
> develop marketing plans.

Oh my God!! A geek with pride!!! UMIT?? What's that--the University
of Massachusetts In Tanglewood? I had a slew of engineers working

for

me who authored patents. Big deal.

Lie.

I retired before you did with a
life of experience behind me all over the world from working for 2
major aerospace firms and 10 years with the US Gov't.

Of course you did. You don't even know how to add and you think all
math is nonsense. Pretty much clarifies this as pure BS.

However, the
most glaring difference between you & I is that I went thru being

an

addict BEFORE I retired, while you are caught up in pathological
gambling at an even worse time--when you have plenty of time to get
roped in to casinos day in and day out! It's a pathetic existence

of

no value and you know it. and to have dragged your wife into the

same

rut as you in both your declining years is unspeakable. That would
really bother me, but you, as someone to whpm gambling is the
everything of life, it just goes right on thru that patented hole

in

your head. Congratulations on your lifelong accomplishments, and

for

taking the time to try and feel good about yourself once again with

a

blast from the past, now that you've chosen to proclaim your life

as

basically over....

Really got to you, didn't I? It's pretty clear from this baloney that
you have no place to hide your failures while admiring my successes.
Most people are probably wondering just what prison you were in over
the last few decades.

> > and thank God few if any
> > CEO's are addicted to video poker as badly as you are. We'd all
be
> > speaking Pakistani!
>
> I see, Pakistani is now a new language. Is that similar to Irani,
or
> maybe Afganistani ... how about Syriai. LMAO. Have another drink,
> monkey boy.

Are you getting it?? I've never seen more precise evidence that
someone hasn't a clue as to what constitutes business sense. Maybe
you ought to patent THAT!

Could you say that in pakistani ... LMAO once again. The fool
strikes back with an empty gun.

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--- In FREEvpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "aces_hii" <aces_hii@y...> wrote:

Only a moron like you would go on and on about single movie. I

didn't

mention other movies I've seen (like Seabiscut) just so you'd do
exactly this. It's the same when I mention playing golf. You can't
help but ridicule anything that an intellignet AP would do. It's
really humorous to the rest of us.

Now you revert back to one of your never-ending escape clauses again--
how surprising--all while you try to save face again by saying you
saw Seabiscuit. Wouldn't you know it has something to do with
gambling..... And ridiculing you just comes naturally. You get hepped
up in the moment of bragging about doing something that doesn't have
to do with casinos for a change, because you're so proud of yourself
for being able to be involved in what other normal people do who
aren't hooked on gambling machines. You get a gold star.
  

> I've been humiliating the term "AP" since before you got addicted
to the game. Now read my statement again, and weep some more.

The only person you EVER "humiliate" is yourself. As the Don

Quixote of the gambling world your efforts only serve to make you
appear idiotic and quite the fool.

A compliment coming from a person with the problems you have.
   

> But because I live a life of common sense and not one of an
> endless revolution around some stupid math model that justifies
> playing video poker far more than I should, you keep getting

upset.

> Oh well, I'll just sit back, relax, and ENJOY!! as you wallow in
your own sorrow.

How are those windmills? A little rougher than you thought?

Now I'm not a young man anymore, but I have no idea what you mean
here. Is this something popular in the circle of AP's, or is it
another of your version of humor that almost always turns out to be
corn?
  

> > Nope. The rest of us view "degeneracy" to be lieing and

promoting

a
> > fraudulent system. Visiting clean, modern casinos is considered
by
> > most people to be entertainment. Maybe you need to catch up

with

> the times. It's no longer the 60's with smoke filled rooms and

the

> rest of us already know that.
>
> More self-justification. Is there never an end to your lunacy?

Just the facts, monkey boy. Isn't it interesting that when you

visit

a casino all you can do is talk about all the wonderous things you
do, and when you wish to defend your scam system by denigrating
others, you say EXACTLY THE OPPOSITE. You can't have it both ways.

Oh, but I can have it both ways. That's YOUR disconnect. You see, I
don't go to a casino for what you twistingly call 'entertainment'
that last hours every day. For me it's a job--take the win and get
out ASAP, and never more than once every month this year. I used to
be sick like you but I grew out of that--thanks to my new play
strategy. And because of that, 67% of the time I do go wondrous
things do happen. That's what puts the hair on your butt, and I
couldn't be more satisfied about it.
   

> Now THERE's somrthing to be proud of. "Honey, lets go to the

casino

> YET AGAIN today and gamble until we're both tired, seeing how

many

> points we can pile up" "Remember, if we lose we won, because

we're

> making $25/hour losing"!!! HAHAHA!!! Talk about pathetic!

LMAO. It really gets to you to see a successful AP who knows you

and your system are a fraud. We've already seen this EXACT same
baloney from you a thousand times. It's like water off a ducks' back.
We all know you do this because you can no longer defend your system
so you attempt to attack the messenger. You are so obvious and so
stupid it makes me chuckle everytime you do this.

And this has WHAT to do with the facts as stated above? It's very
understandable that you try to take the focus off of your problem,
but I'm always here to remind you of it when you try to sneak away!

> Your weasel words don't mean a thing to the educated. Post a real
bet that's not changing with the wind or face humiliation again.

Why, so you can back out ONE MORE TIME. Three times is enough for

me and everyone else to see you as a sniveling mamas' boy who can't

admit when he's been caught in yet another lie.

I see you've developed yet another escape route. Persistence isn't
one of your major strengths. Wimping away while squatting seems to be
your M.O.
   

> > The evidence is in all of your posts. However, we already know
> you're a pathetic loser and will deny the obvious.
>
> That's supposed to be a strong post??

To anyone of any intelligence. But, let me spell it out for the
intellectually challenged. Your fake id, aces_hii, is included in
everything you post.

So now it's "fake"? When were you born? I know it wasn't yesterday
based on your degenerative aging process you continuously portray.
Last I heard, anyone can use any address they choose. I'd say you're
kinda lost again, and haven't thought out anything well lately.
      

> > I
> > > admonished you for trying to sluff off the family gambling
> problem
> > > onto your wife.
> >
> > Ho hum. Still trying to pass off this BS when you've never met

me

> or my wife. Just more evidence that you are about the MOST

pathetic

> > loser ever.
>
> Sore spot, huh?

Nope. How are those windmills coming?

Bam! Whenever I say that it's like pouring salt into your open
wound....and I LOVE IT!!! Oh what a GREAT Day AGAIN!

> > > I know that's an uncomfortable subject for you to
> > > take on because just the mere viewing of it here gives you

the guilt of the century. But hey, you made your bed!

> >
> > More ho hum. Wake me up when you have something new or even the
> > slightest bit intelligent to say.
>
> I guess it's beginning to have a more profound effect.......

Even more ho hum. I'm glad I got some sleep or these content free
responses of yours would make my eyelids very heavy.

I'll say it for you, since a gambling addict has no way of
atoning: "Maam, I'm VERY sorry for littly dicky having put you
through the agony of being involved in daily casino gambling, losing
all that money, and making us look like complete and foolish loners &
idiots to anyone who USED to be our acquaintances" "Maybe someday you
can get your life back to normal like the rest of us who aren't
pathological gamblers, and we can do the things that used to be
important to you both again".
    

> Um, I, unlike you and Congo and all the other slide rule geeks

out there, don't need anyone to 'back me up'. I'm the top dog and you

all know it, which is why you're irritated with me. Still Lovin'

it!!

Yawn. The monkey boy at his best. He has absolutely nothing to say

to support his system so he stands up, beats on his chest and

unknowningly makes a fool of himself once again.

As strippers say in Gentlemen Clubs everywhere (I know, geeks like
you have never been) "When You Got It, FLAUNT It!"
   

> Future expectation other than
> expecting to win at least 87% of the time with an overall very

high

> yearly profit, is meaningless and even worse--geek-like. You're
> always saying winning $2500 is meaningless the moment you walk
away, but that's bitterness talk by a loser.

I see it really irritates you look like an idiot. You must get
irritated quite often. So, let me say it once again. Any winning or
losing session is MEANINGLESS. It has nothing to do with future
expectation. You'd have us all believe that anyone who wins the
lottery is a SURE thing to win it the next time they play.

OK, OK, so let's look at this stupid statement you made more closely.
I win $2500 or more today and "it doesn't matter", because all I'm
REALLY interested in and the only thing that REALLY matters today is
what can I expect in the future! HAHAHA! Now guess which one of those
you can buy the groceries with, bozo.
   

> Congo's a sissy-bettor just like you. He, like you, spend lots of
> energy saying I don't win what I say I do, but then when it's

time to bet, the real fear shows thru. "But gee Rob, you just may win
like you say, but just to be fair to a wimp like me I want 7:1 odds".

> You've sissified him into your mold. Everyone knows I should win,
and if you two are so certain that I'll probably win then you

should't say I won't win when there's no money on the line, and don't
insult me by begging for odds.

LMAO. Don't get all in tither just because Cogno has shown you up
with a completely fair bet (if you really believed in your system
you'd take it). Just have another drink and ask your wife for some
more money. The malls will be open soon and you can go buy some new
panties to make you feel better.

If Congo really believed I was a liar, he'd make the bet even without
showing he's been sissified by you. Last I heard, fair meant even,
and chicken meant the need to have odds in your favor before making a
bet. Come to think of it, I ran out of Single Barrel last night and
need a new one. But unlike you, i don't use shopping as an excuse to
go into a casino along the way to get a video poker fix. Maybe I'll
go help my wife count her money now--while your's takes another
mandatory and dreaded trip into a smokey casino to satisfy the cursed
itch you gave her long ago.
   

> Yes I do, and I'll bet any amount you want because I have far

more

> money than you do, that i can provide evidence. Just lay out the
> specific terms of your bet without all the squirming that you're

so used to doing, and let's see if you can do it WITHOUT an escape

> clause for a change.

We've already been down this path. You chickened out.

Sounds like one more escape clause to me.
  

> Yup. My wife works and makes 6 figures as an engineer at an
aerospace
> firm over here, where she's been for 23 years. Kinda makes your
> addict wife pale in comparison, don'tcha think dicky??

My wife retired a long time ago. She was able to do other things
because I had a real job and brought in more than enough money for
the both of us. I guess that makes you a lot like my wife.

Too bad a good person got dragged down into the gambling gutter
though. Them 'other things' will getcya every time! My wife will
retire when she hits 55 in 8 years, and she doesn't live in a
household where everyone's controlled by video poker machines. I
guess that makes your wife a lot like you.
  

> Oh my God!! A geek with pride!!! UMIT?? What's that--the

University of Massachusetts In Tanglewood? I had a slew of engineers
working for me who authored patents. Big deal.

> I retired before you did with a
> life of experience behind me all over the world from working for

2 major aerospace firms and 10 years with the US Gov't.

Of course you did. You don't even know how to add and you think all
math is nonsense. Pretty much clarifies this as pure BS.

I've still got the multiple layered passports. Would you like to
place a bet on whether I can produce even ONE of them? Now there's a
simple, B&W bet offer--$100,000 that it can be produced, and if you
don't know what 'multi-layered' means, ask. Also, I have pictures and
documents that identify what I did for the US Gov't. right out of
college and whatI did for them since 9-11. Care to bet on that too?
You see, that's why your 'ramble out of nowhere' doesn't impress me
even in the slightest. You've obviously done nothing, were locked in
a room at IBM probably smelling your own farts and giggling about it
with other nerds most of your career, and you think patents are a big
deal as if they're not a dime a dozen. No wonder you're enamored with
video poker gambling in your declining years!

> However, the
> most glaring difference between you & I is that I went thru being
an
> addict BEFORE I retired, while you are caught up in pathological
> gambling at an even worse time--when you have plenty of time to

get

> roped in to casinos day in and day out! It's a pathetic existence
of
> no value and you know it. and to have dragged your wife into the
same
> rut as you in both your declining years is unspeakable. That

would

> really bother me, but you, as someone to whpm gambling is the
> everything of life, it just goes right on thru that patented hole
in
> your head. Congratulations on your lifelong accomplishments, and
for
> taking the time to try and feel good about yourself once again

with

a
> blast from the past, now that you've chosen to proclaim your life
as
> basically over....

Really got to you, didn't I? It's pretty clear from this baloney

that

you have no place to hide your failures while admiring my

successes.

Most people are probably wondering just what prison you were in

over the last few decades.

I'll leave it in just to irritate you one more time!

> > I see, Pakistani is now a new language. Is that similar to

Irani, or maybe Afganistani ... how about Syriai. LMAO. Have another
drink, monkey boy.

>
> Are you getting it?? I've never seen more precise evidence that
> someone hasn't a clue as to what constitutes business sense.

Maybe

> you ought to patent THAT!

Could you say that in pakistani ... LMAO once again. The fool
strikes back with an empty gun.

Here's the kicker to your stupidity and attempt at being worldy--The
official language in Pakistan is Pakistani, dodo brains. Kinda sums
up the proof that you have little knowledge of the outside world. In
fact, you're probably feeling so low right now that you might think
I'm feeling a bit sorry for you. WRONG! I STOMP on idiots when
they're down!!! HAHAHAHA!!!!!

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--- In FREEvpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "rgmustain" <rgmustain@a...> wrote:

--- In FREEvpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "rgmustain" <rgmustain@a...>

wrote:

> Only a moron like you would go on and on about single movie. I
didn't
> mention other movies I've seen (like Seabiscut) just so you'd do
> exactly this. It's the same when I mention playing golf. You

can't

> help but ridicule anything that an intellignet AP would do. It's
> really humorous to the rest of us.

Now you revert back to one of your never-ending escape clauses

again--

Got you again. LMAO.

how surprising--all while you try to save face again by saying you
saw Seabiscuit. Wouldn't you know it has something to do with
gambling.....

The movie has almost nothing to do with gambling. Are you always
wrong?
  

> > I've been humiliating the term "AP" since before you got

addicted

> to the game. Now read my statement again, and weep some more.
>
> The only person you EVER "humiliate" is yourself. As the Don
Quixote of the gambling world your efforts only serve to make you
appear idiotic and quite the fool.

A compliment coming from a person with the problems you have.

If that's what you think it is ...

> > But because I live a life of common sense and not one of an
> > endless revolution around some stupid math model that justifies
> > playing video poker far more than I should, you keep getting
upset.
> > Oh well, I'll just sit back, relax, and ENJOY!! as you wallow

in

> your own sorrow.

> How are those windmills? A little rougher than you thought?

Now I'm not a young man anymore, but I have no idea what you mean
here.
Is this something popular in the circle of AP's, or is it
another of your version of humor that almost always turns out to be
corn?

LMAO. Did you ever figure out who Dilbert is?

> > > Nope. The rest of us view "degeneracy" to be lieing and
promoting
> a
> > > fraudulent system. Visiting clean, modern casinos is

considered

> by
> > > most people to be entertainment. Maybe you need to catch up
with
> > the times. It's no longer the 60's with smoke filled rooms and
the
> > rest of us already know that.
> >
> > More self-justification. Is there never an end to your lunacy?
>
> Just the facts, monkey boy. Isn't it interesting that when you
visit
> a casino all you can do is talk about all the wonderous things

you

> do, and when you wish to defend your scam system by denigrating
> others, you say EXACTLY THE OPPOSITE. You can't have it both ways.

Oh, but I can have it both ways.

Sorry moron, it just doesn't work that way. The rest of us know it
but you are so far behind it's ridiculous.

> > Now THERE's somrthing to be proud of. "Honey, lets go to the
casino
> > YET AGAIN today and gamble until we're both tired, seeing how
many
> > points we can pile up" "Remember, if we lose we won, because
we're
> > making $25/hour losing"!!! HAHAHA!!! Talk about pathetic!
>
> LMAO. It really gets to you to see a successful AP who knows you
and your system are a fraud. We've already seen this EXACT same
baloney from you a thousand times. It's like water off a ducks'

back.

We all know you do this because you can no longer defend your

system

so you attempt to attack the messenger. You are so obvious and so
stupid it makes me chuckle everytime you do this.

And this has WHAT to do with the facts as stated above?

When and if you finally state a fact it will be front page news. So
far, you're still on the cutting room floor.

> > Your weasel words don't mean a thing to the educated. Post a

real

> bet that's not changing with the wind or face humiliation again.
>
> Why, so you can back out ONE MORE TIME. Three times is enough for
me and everyone else to see you as a sniveling mamas' boy who can't
> admit when he's been caught in yet another lie.

I see you've developed yet another escape route. Persistence isn't
one of your major strengths. Wimping away while squatting seems to

be

your M.O.

Not only have you backed down from my bets but you continually back
down from Cognos' bets. You are as pathetic as it gets. Come on,
mamas' boy, show you have some.
    

> > > I
> > > > admonished you for trying to sluff off the family gambling
> > problem
> > > > onto your wife.
> > >
> > > Ho hum. Still trying to pass off this BS when you've never

met

me
> > or my wife. Just more evidence that you are about the MOST
pathetic
> > > loser ever.
> >
> > Sore spot, huh?
>
> Nope. How are those windmills coming?

Bam! Whenever I say that it's like pouring salt into your open
wound....and I LOVE IT!!! Oh what a GREAT Day AGAIN!

You didn't answer the question. LMAO. If stupidity was worth anything
you'd be a rich mamas' boy.
   

> > Um, I, unlike you and Congo and all the other slide rule geeks
out there, don't need anyone to 'back me up'. I'm the top dog and

you

> all know it, which is why you're irritated with me. Still Lovin'
it!!

> Yawn. The monkey boy at his best. He has absolutely nothing to

say

to support his system so he stands up, beats on his chest and
> unknowningly makes a fool of himself once again.

As strippers say in Gentlemen Clubs everywhere (I know, geeks like
you have never been) "When You Got It, FLAUNT It!"

Let us know when that happens.

> > Future expectation other than
> > expecting to win at least 87% of the time with an overall very
high
> > yearly profit, is meaningless and even worse--geek-like. You're
> > always saying winning $2500 is meaningless the moment you walk
> away, but that's bitterness talk by a loser.
>
> I see it really irritates you look like an idiot. You must get
> irritated quite often. So, let me say it once again. Any winning

or

> losing session is MEANINGLESS. It has nothing to do with future
> expectation. You'd have us all believe that anyone who wins the
> lottery is a SURE thing to win it the next time they play.

OK, OK, so let's look at this stupid statement you made more

closely.

I win $2500 or more today and "it doesn't matter", because all I'm
REALLY interested in and the only thing that REALLY matters today

is

what can I expect in the future! HAHAHA! Now guess which one of

those

you can buy the groceries with, bozo.

Not with the $2500 that will eventually disappear in a $57,500 loss.

> > Congo's a sissy-bettor just like you. He, like you, spend lots

of

> > energy saying I don't win what I say I do, but then when it's
time to bet, the real fear shows thru. "But gee Rob, you just may

win

like you say, but just to be fair to a wimp like me I want 7:1

odds".

> > You've sissified him into your mold. Everyone knows I should

win,

> and if you two are so certain that I'll probably win then you
should't say I won't win when there's no money on the line, and

don't

insult me by begging for odds.

> LMAO. Don't get all in tither just because Cogno has shown you up
> with a completely fair bet (if you really believed in your system
> you'd take it). Just have another drink and ask your wife for

some

> more money. The malls will be open soon and you can go buy some

new

> panties to make you feel better.

If Congo really believed I was a liar, he'd make the bet even

It IS an even bet. It's a bet the normalizes the progression and the
only factor left is the negative vs. positive machines that you play.
If you REALLY believed your system can overcome a negative
expectation then you would accept the bet. However, you run and
cry "mama, mama, what do I do?" instead. One of the real chuckles in
all this is that you had no idea that this was an even bet. It really
demonstrates your inability to understand the simplest things.

without
showing he's been sissified by you. Last I heard, fair meant even,

LMAO. It IS even. Boy are you ever dense.

and chicken meant the need to have odds in your favor before making

a

bet.

You just called yourself a "chicken". This is great. If you ask real
nice I'll explain why it's an even bet in very simple terms so even
you can understand.
      

> > Yup. My wife works and makes 6 figures as an engineer at an
> aerospace
> > firm over here, where she's been for 23 years. Kinda makes your
> > addict wife pale in comparison, don'tcha think dicky??

> My wife retired a long time ago. She was able to do other things
> because I had a real job and brought in more than enough money

for

> the both of us. I guess that makes you a lot like my wife.

Too bad a good person got dragged down into the gambling gutter
though. Them 'other things' will getcya every time! My wife will
retire when she hits 55 in 8 years,

3 years older than when I retired. It will probably take her that
long to recover all your losses she must recoup by working. Now, be a
good mamas' boy and go fix dinner again. Maybe if you show off those
new panties she'll consider some dessert.
   

> > Oh my God!! A geek with pride!!! UMIT?? What's that--the
University of Massachusetts In Tanglewood? I had a slew of

engineers

working for me who authored patents. Big deal.

> > I retired before you did with a
> > life of experience behind me all over the world from working

for

2 major aerospace firms and 10 years with the US Gov't.

> Of course you did. You don't even know how to add and you think

all

> math is nonsense. Pretty much clarifies this as pure BS.

I've still got the multiple layered passports.

OK, your wife took you on some trips. WOW. That is really impressive.

A passport means nothing. Your going to have to come up with
something a little more concrete. I've been to NY several times and
it does mean I'm a star Yankee pitcher.

PS. This is called an analogy. Try very hard to understand what that
means.

Would you like to
place a bet on whether I can produce even ONE of them? Now there's

a

simple, B&W bet offer--$100,000 that it can be produced, and if you
don't know what 'multi-layered' means, ask. Also, I have pictures

and

documents that identify what I did for the US Gov't. right out of
college and whatI did for them since 9-11.

Is that right. Enlighten us ...

> > > I see, Pakistani is now a new language. Is that similar to
Irani, or maybe Afganistani ... how about Syriai. LMAO. Have

another

drink, monkey boy.
> >
> > Are you getting it?? I've never seen more precise evidence that
> > someone hasn't a clue as to what constitutes business sense.
Maybe
> > you ought to patent THAT!
>
> Could you say that in pakistani ... LMAO once again. The fool
> strikes back with an empty gun.

Here's the kicker to your stupidity and attempt at being worldy--

The

official language in Pakistan is Pakistani, dodo brains. Kinda sums
up the proof that you have little knowledge of the outside world.

In

fact, you're probably feeling so low right now that you might think
I'm feeling a bit sorry for you. WRONG! I STOMP on idiots when
they're down!!! HAHAHAHA!!!!!

Wrong again. Did you really think you'd get away with this lie? Urdu
is the official language while Punjabi is spoken by the most people.

http://www.nationmaster.com/country/pk/Language

Who's laughing now?

I fully expect this to be deleted in the next idiotic comeback to
cover yet another RS lie.

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--- In FREEvpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "aces_hii" <aces_hii@y...> wrote:

> how surprising--all while you try to save face again by saying

you

> saw Seabiscuit. Wouldn't you know it has something to do with
> gambling.....

The movie has almost nothing to do with gambling. Are you always
wrong?

Wrong. Look up and study the horse Seabiscuit, then come back with
something intelligent.
   

LMAO. Did you ever figure out who Dilbert is?

No.

> > > More self-justification. Is there never an end to your lunacy?
> >
> > Just the facts, monkey boy. Isn't it interesting that when you
> visit
> > a casino all you can do is talk about all the wonderous things
you
> > do, and when you wish to defend your scam system by denigrating
> > others, you say EXACTLY THE OPPOSITE. You can't have it both

ways.

>
> Oh, but I can have it both ways.

Sorry moron, it just doesn't work that way. The rest of us know it
but you are so far behind it's ridiculous.

I know you're disappointed, but I do have it both ways--as much as it
irks you to know that.

Not only have you backed down from my bets but you continually back
down from Cognos' bets. You are as pathetic as it gets. Come on,
mamas' boy, show you have some.

Catch up.
     

> > Yawn. The monkey boy at his best. He has absolutely nothing to
say
> to support his system so he stands up, beats on his chest and
> > unknowningly makes a fool of himself once again.
>
> As strippers say in Gentlemen Clubs everywhere (I know, geeks

like you have never been) "When You Got It, FLAUNT It!"

Let us know when that happens.

I'm right AGAIN about your pathetic life, aren't I....
    

> OK, OK, so let's look at this stupid statement you made more
closely.
> I win $2500 or more today and "it doesn't matter", because all

I'm

> REALLY interested in and the only thing that REALLY matters today
is
> what can I expect in the future! HAHAHA! Now guess which one of
those
> you can buy the groceries with, bozo.

Not with the $2500 that will eventually disappear in a $57,500 loss.

Can't answer that one, can you..... Big surprise. You're stumped
again.
   

LMAO. It IS even. Boy are you ever dense.

Read more clearly. There are no such things as 'odds' when someone is
proving to another that they are not a liar. Maybe you ought to jump
in on the bet with congo. He could use your help.
  

> > My wife retired a long time ago. She was able to do other

things

> > because I had a real job and brought in more than enough money
for
> > the both of us. I guess that makes you a lot like my wife.
>
> Too bad a good person got dragged down into the gambling gutter
> though. Them 'other things' will getcya every time! My wife will
> retire when she hits 55 in 8 years,

3 years older than when I retired. It will probably take her that
long to recover all your losses she must recoup by working. Now, be

a good mamas' boy and go fix dinner again. Maybe if you show off
those new panties she'll consider some dessert.

Oh, that just brought up another issue that makes us far more
successful than you addicts. While I was overseas for extended
periods, my wife also got her Culinary Arts degree, so she's a whiz
at fixin' dinner. I'm betting your's looks forward to the slop in the
local casino buffets, because that's the type of food you've been
able to feed her throughout the years.
    

> I've still got the multiple layered passports.

OK, your wife took you on some trips. WOW. That is really

impressive.

A passport means nothing. Your going to have to come up with
something a little more concrete. I've been to NY several times and
it does mean I'm a star Yankee pitcher.

PS. This is called an analogy. Try very hard to understand what

that means.

Now passports mean nothing, like I've never been where I've said.
What theory does that come from?

> Would you like to
> place a bet on whether I can produce even ONE of them? Now

there's

a
> simple, B&W bet offer--$100,000 that it can be produced, and if

you

> don't know what 'multi-layered' means, ask. Also, I have pictures
and
> documents that identify what I did for the US Gov't. right out of
> college and whatI did for them since 9-11.

Is that right. Enlighten us ...

And your answer to the bet offer is.......

> > > > I see, Pakistani is now a new language. Is that similar to
> Irani, or maybe Afganistani ... how about Syriai. LMAO. Have
another
> drink, monkey boy.
> > >
> > > Are you getting it?? I've never seen more precise evidence

that

> > > someone hasn't a clue as to what constitutes business sense.
> Maybe
> > > you ought to patent THAT!
> >
> > Could you say that in pakistani ... LMAO once again. The fool
> > strikes back with an empty gun.
>
> Here's the kicker to your stupidity and attempt at being worldy--
The
> official language in Pakistan is Pakistani, dodo brains. Kinda

sums

> up the proof that you have little knowledge of the outside world.
In
> fact, you're probably feeling so low right now that you might

think

> I'm feeling a bit sorry for you. WRONG! I STOMP on idiots when
> they're down!!! HAHAHAHA!!!!!
>

Wrong again. Did you really think you'd get away with this lie?

Urdu is the official language while Punjabi is spoken by the most
people.

http://www.nationmaster.com/country/pk/Language

Who's laughing now?

You idiot. You don't even understand what it is you're looking up.
Find a person from Pakistan and ask him, in ENGLISH, what native
language he speaks. Urdu....you have no clue, do you. All you can do
is theorize from reading things you don't understand. And Punjabi is
the common language in Kashmir, because most of it is controlled by,
guess who, YES Einstein--INDIA!! It is rarely spoken outside Kashmir
except in border towns. You needed to get a life long ago, but now
you're attempt at backtracking when you and yours are involved in
pathological gambling just makes you look all the more stupid all the
time. And that warms my heart........

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--- In FREEvpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "rgmustain" <rgmustain@a...> wrote:

--- In FREEvpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "rgmustain" <rgmustain@a...>

wrote:

> > how surprising--all while you try to save face again by saying
you
> > saw Seabiscuit. Wouldn't you know it has something to do with
> > gambling.....
>
> The movie has almost nothing to do with gambling. Are you always
> wrong?

Wrong. Look up and study the horse Seabiscuit, then come back with
something intelligent.

I saw the movie, moron. It was about the people, not the gambling.
The only real gamble in the whole movie was the bet between the two
horse owners. Now, try to keep up.

> LMAO. Did you ever figure out who Dilbert is?

No.

And, I doubt you ever heard of Don Quixote.

>
> > > > More self-justification. Is there never an end to your

lunacy?

> > >
> > > Just the facts, monkey boy. Isn't it interesting that when

you

> > visit
> > > a casino all you can do is talk about all the wonderous

things

> you
> > > do, and when you wish to defend your scam system by

denigrating

> > > others, you say EXACTLY THE OPPOSITE. You can't have it both
ways.
> >
> > Oh, but I can have it both ways.
>
> Sorry moron, it just doesn't work that way. The rest of us know

it

> but you are so far behind it's ridiculous.

I know you're disappointed, but I do have it both ways--as much as

it

irks you to know that.

Your words mean nothing. I see you accepted Cognos' bet and then
immediately tried to change it. If you weren't such a pathetic loser
it would be hilarious.

> Not only have you backed down from my bets but you continually

back

> down from Cognos' bets. You are as pathetic as it gets. Come on,
> mamas' boy, show you have some.

Catch up.

I have, you're in the process of backing down once again. Either
accept the bet or don't. Your mealy-mouthed approach of first
accepting and then backing down is getting old.

> > > Yawn. The monkey boy at his best. He has absolutely nothing

to

> say
> > to support his system so he stands up, beats on his chest and
> > > unknowningly makes a fool of himself once again.
> >
> > As strippers say in Gentlemen Clubs everywhere (I know, geeks
like you have never been) "When You Got It, FLAUNT It!"
>
> Let us know when that happens.

I'm right AGAIN about your pathetic life, aren't I....

Nope. You haven't been right yet. Or, do you still think Pakistani is
a language? Of course you do. You would never admit you were wrong
even in the face of overwhelming evidence.

> LMAO. It IS even. Boy are you ever dense.

Read more clearly. There are no such things as 'odds' when someone

is

proving to another that they are not a liar. Maybe you ought to

jump

in on the bet with congo. He could use your help.

He is doing fine, you are the one that needs help. I would suggest
you continue to back down or kiss your $250K goodbye.

> > I've still got the multiple layered passports.
>
> OK, your wife took you on some trips. WOW. That is really
impressive.
>
> A passport means nothing. Your going to have to come up with
> something a little more concrete. I've been to NY several times

and

> it doesn't mean I'm a star Yankee pitcher.
>
> PS. This is called an analogy. Try very hard to understand what
that means.

Now passports mean nothing, like I've never been where I've said.
What theory does that come from?

Passports mean absolutely nothing about what happened at these
locations. You're going to have to do better than this.

>
> > Would you like to
> > place a bet on whether I can produce even ONE of them? Now
there's
> a
> > simple, B&W bet offer--$100,000 that it can be produced, and if
you
> > don't know what 'multi-layered' means, ask. Also, I have

pictures

> and
> > documents that identify what I did for the US Gov't. right out

of

> > college and whatI did for them since 9-11.
>
> Is that right. Enlighten us ...

And your answer to the bet offer is.......

I haven't seen anything to bet about yet. Either inform us what you
did or we have to assume it was all BS.

>
> > > > > I see, Pakistani is now a new language. Is that similar

to

> > Irani, or maybe Afganistani ... how about Syriai. LMAO. Have
> another
> > drink, monkey boy.
> > > >
> > > > Are you getting it?? I've never seen more precise evidence
that
> > > > someone hasn't a clue as to what constitutes business

sense.

> > Maybe
> > > > you ought to patent THAT!
> > >
> > > Could you say that in pakistani ... LMAO once again. The

fool

···

--- In FREEvpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "aces_hii" <aces_hii@y...> wrote:

> > > strikes back with an empty gun.
> >
> > Here's the kicker to your stupidity and attempt at being worldy-

-

> The
> > official language in Pakistan is Pakistani, dodo brains. Kinda
sums
> > up the proof that you have little knowledge of the outside

world.

> In
> > fact, you're probably feeling so low right now that you might
think
> > I'm feeling a bit sorry for you. WRONG! I STOMP on idiots when
> > they're down!!! HAHAHAHA!!!!!
> >
>
> Wrong again. Did you really think you'd get away with this lie?
Urdu is the official language while Punjabi is spoken by the most
people.
>
> http://www.nationmaster.com/country/pk/Language
>
> Who's laughing now?

You idiot. You don't even understand what it is you're looking up.
Find a person from Pakistan and ask him, in ENGLISH, what native
language he speaks. Urdu....you have no clue, do you. All you can

do

is theorize from reading things you don't understand. And Punjabi

is

the common language in Kashmir, because most of it is controlled

by,

guess who, YES Einstein--INDIA!! It is rarely spoken outside

Kashmir

except in border towns.

More BS. You've been caught in another lie so what do you do? You
continue to lie. We've gotten used to it. There is NO language called
Pakistani. You know it, I know it and now everyone else knows it.

> Wrong. Look up and study the horse Seabiscuit, then come back

with something intelligent.

I saw the movie, moron. It was about the people, not the gambling.
The only real gamble in the whole movie was the bet between the two
horse owners. Now, try to keep up.

Hello McFly!?!? HELLO?? The point that weent zinging over your head
once agains, was that you rarely find time in your life to see or do
anything that ISN'T gambling related in one way or the other.
Gambling has taken over your life in a BIG way, so you get thrilled
every time you hear of anything having to do with it. HELLO?

And, I doubt you ever heard of Don Quixote.

Another one of your fantasies??

> > >
> > > Oh, but I can have it both ways.
> >
> > Sorry moron, it just doesn't work that way. The rest of us know
it
> > but you are so far behind it's ridiculous.
>
> I know you're disappointed, but I do have it both ways--as much

as it irks you to know that.

Your words mean nothing. I see you accepted Cognos' bet and then
immediately tried to change it. If you weren't such a pathetic

loser it would be hilarious.

You're seeing things. What else is new. Congo's got his foot waaay
too far inside his mouth on this one. He either accepts it EXACTLY as
he challenged me or he's gonna look pretty stupid to tens of
thousands of people soon enough. My 'change' is that every session
counts, so it would behoove him to make sure his verifier is there.
All that means is due diligence on his part. Only you would view that
as a 'change'.

> > > As strippers say in Gentlemen Clubs everywhere (I know, geeks
> like you have never been) "When You Got It, FLAUNT It!"
> >
> > Let us know when that happens.
>
> I'm right AGAIN about your pathetic life, aren't I....

Nope. You haven't been right yet. Or, do you still think Pakistani

is a language? Of course you do. You would never admit you were wrong

even in the face of overwhelming evidence.

I was gonna wait until later in the response, but I think I'll
humiliate you here right now! You see, all that intellect you believe
you have works against you most of the time with someone like me. I
actually have lived the life, while all you can do is trace life on
the Internet, make believe, and theorize. I've been to Pakistan maybe
8 times, and whatever you looked up made you write your usual
incomplete findings too soon. Here's what you were looking for: The
language is Pakistani. The DIALECTS are many. More than half the
country speaks Pakistani dialects, while the minority speaks several
variation of the Indian subcontinental language. Facts, dicky, facts.
You're always seeming to be short on them, even when you try to be
smart and shoot yourself in the foot. You used a shotgun that time.
Stick with the facts, and understand them before you write anything
down.

> > A passport means nothing. Your going to have to come up with
> > something a little more concrete. I've been to NY several times
and it doesn't mean I'm a star Yankee pitcher.
> >
> > PS. This is called an analogy. Try very hard to understand what
> that means.
>
> Now passports mean nothing, like I've never been where I've said.
> What theory does that come from?

Passports mean absolutely nothing about what happened at these
locations. You're going to have to do better than this.

About 'what happened' at these locations? Huh? What are you talking
about now?? The point is I've been to them for both corporations
(Boeing & Northrup-Grumman) and the US Gov't.--many times over. While
you sat in your safe little cubby hole and read about the world, I
was experiencing it, and at times, helping make it more comfortable
for you to grow into the gambling addict you now are.
  

I haven't seen anything to bet about yet. Either inform us what you
did or we have to assume it was all BS.

Figure it out, Einstein. You don't believe anything I say anyway
because you're such an envious person and don't want it to be in your
theories that I have had such an interesting life compared to a
basement-dwelling patent-nerd who smelled other geek's farts for
entertainment. No wonder you lead such a sour life riddled with
gambling problems today.

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--- In FREEvpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "rgmustain" <rgmustain@a...> wrote:

--- In FREEvpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "rgmustain" <rgmustain@a...>

wrote:

> > Wrong. Look up and study the horse Seabiscuit, then come back
with something intelligent.
>
> I saw the movie, moron. It was about the people, not the

gambling.

> The only real gamble in the whole movie was the bet between the

two

> horse owners. Now, try to keep up.

Hello McFly!?!? HELLO?? The point that weent zinging over your head
once agains, was that you rarely find time in your life to see or

do

anything that ISN'T gambling related in one way or the other.

No, you thought the movie was about gambling and it wasn't. Now,
you're, once again, scrambling to save face. LMAO. It's so easy for
the rest of us to see the real you.

> And, I doubt you ever heard of Don Quixote.

Another one of your fantasies??

Yet you still made a response ... "A compliment coming from a person
with the problems you have". Does this have any meaning? YES, it
shows that you can will lie about just about anything to protect your
ego.

I suggest you research a little about Don Quixote, because you and
this character are alike in so many ways.

> > > >
> > > > Oh, but I can have it both ways.
> > >
> > > Sorry moron, it just doesn't work that way. The rest of us

know

> it
> > > but you are so far behind it's ridiculous.
> >
> > I know you're disappointed, but I do have it both ways--as much
as it irks you to know that.
>
> Your words mean nothing. I see you accepted Cognos' bet and then
> immediately tried to change it. If you weren't such a pathetic
loser it would be hilarious.

You're seeing things. What else is new.

We all saw Cognos' original challenge. You said OK and then
IMMEDIATELY changed all the parameters. This is, of course, your way
of backing out of the bet. You've done it so many times now that you
are becoming known as the YES-NO man.

Congo's got his foot waaay
too far inside his mouth on this one. He either accepts it EXACTLY

as

he challenged me

No, that's up to you. He originally required all games were below
99.2. You came back with 10/7 DB. The WHOLE point of this debate is
for you to provide evidence that your scam CAN change a negative
expectation into a positive one AS YOU CLAIM. Now you come back with
positive machines. If you say you've won playing positive machines
then we wouldn't be having this disucssion at all. We already know
that anyone could win playing positive expectation games.

or he's gonna look pretty stupid to tens of
thousands of people soon enough. My 'change' is that every session
counts,

Yeah, unverified sessions so you can dump some more of those illegal
funds into the results? Why else would you want them? You're as
obvious as a picture window. Either stick with the ORIGINAL terms or
admit your are a AFRAID to risk $250K using your system on NEGATIVE
machines.

> Nope. You haven't been right yet. Or, do you still think

Pakistani

is a language? Of course you do. You would never admit you were

wrong

> even in the face of overwhelming evidence.

I was gonna wait until later in the response, but I think I'll
humiliate you here right now! You see, all that intellect you

believe

you have works against you most of the time with someone like me. I
actually have lived the life, while all you can do is trace life on
the Internet, make believe, and theorize. I've been to Pakistan

maybe

8 times, and whatever you looked up made you write your usual
incomplete findings too soon. Here's what you were looking for: The
language is Pakistani. The DIALECTS are many. More than half the
country speaks Pakistani dialects, while the minority speaks

several

variation of the Indian subcontinental language. Facts, dicky,

facts.

You're always seeming to be short on them, even when you try to be
smart and shoot yourself in the foot. You used a shotgun that time.
Stick with the facts, and understand them before you write anything
down.

More ho hum. If you want to call these languages dialects so be it.
FACT: The rest of the world calls them languages. None of your
worthless words can change that. Kind of like your VP approach. The
rest of the world knows and understands how the math works, you on
the other hand have your own dialect/strategy that has long been
proven a fraud ... just like you.

> > > A passport means nothing. Your going to have to come up with
> > > something a little more concrete. I've been to NY several

times

> and it doesn't mean I'm a star Yankee pitcher.
> > >
> > > PS. This is called an analogy. Try very hard to understand

what

> > that means.
> >
> > Now passports mean nothing, like I've never been where I've

said.

> > What theory does that come from?
>
> Passports mean absolutely nothing about what happened at these
> locations. You're going to have to do better than this.

About 'what happened' at these locations? Huh? What are you talking
about now??

You claimed you went these places as part of a job. A said it could
be simply a vacation. The passport does not provide any evidence that
supports one view over another.

The point is I've been to them for both corporations
(Boeing & Northrup-Grumman) and the US Gov't.--many times over.

Or, .... you were with your wife on vacation.
   

> I haven't seen anything to bet about yet. Either inform us what

you

> did or we have to assume it was all BS.

Figure it out, Einstein. You don't believe anything I say anyway
because you're such an envious person and don't want it to be in

your

theories that I have had such an interesting life compared to a
basement-dwelling patent-nerd who smelled other geek's farts for
entertainment. No wonder you lead such a sour life riddled with
gambling problems today.

Just as I thought. No REAL evidence. Now, how of those years between
overseas visits did you spend in prison?

···

--- In FREEvpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "aces_hii" <aces_hii@y...> wrote:

<<He either accepts it EXACTLY as
he challenged me or he's gonna look pretty stupid to tens of
thousands of people soon enough. My 'change' is that every session

You can't go one sentence without being caught in a lie? I very carefully
specified that unverified sessions would not count exactly to prevent you
from running your usual scam of last-minute, unverified, midnight runs.

<<The
language is Pakistani. The DIALECTS are many.>>

I can't restrain myself from laughing at this idiotic remark. The word
"Pakistan" was coined in 1933. It is an acronym for Punjab, Afghan, Kashmir,
Sindh, and Baluchistan. "Pakistani language" indeed.

Cogno

Cogno:

It seems to me that should you verify 49 sessions and find you will
lose, you could then simply refuse to watch that last session under
those terms.

Either you are an honorable person or not. If I had a chance to win
$250,000 and thought it was a lock (as you do), I would make it my
JOB for the next year.

In fact, I'll make you this offer. Pay me a guaranteed $125,000
(only half of what you KNOW you'll win), and I promise to watch each
and every session. Midnight runs, even at the last minute, would not
bother me. I'll be there for you!

Please, please, please. Hire me.

Rick

[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

···

At 08:16 AM 10/13/2005, you wrote:

I very carefully
specified that unverified sessions would not count exactly to prevent you
from running your usual scam of last-minute, unverified, midnight runs.

> Hello McFly!?!? HELLO?? The point that weent zinging over your

head once agains, was that you rarely find time in your life to see
or do anything that ISN'T gambling related in one way or the other.

No, you thought the movie was about gambling and it wasn't. Now,
you're, once again, scrambling to save face. LMAO. It's so easy for
the rest of us to see the real you.

Um, I saw it twice. There's no getting away from the fact that you
likely said "Dear, there's a movie about a horse I'd like to go
see" "WTF Dick, are you NUTS"? "No, no, you've got it all wrong--
it's about a RACE horse!" "Oh, OK honey, I can handle not being at
the machines for a few hours only because the movie has SOMETHING to
do with gambling"....but I'm warning you, I'm getting up and leaving
for my daily fix of video poker if it lasts TOO LONG!"
Is there areally any doubt.....

I suggest you research a little about Don Quixote, because you and
this character are alike in so many ways.

Don't care about him, unless he was a successful businessman, a great
lover, and a world-renowned gambler.

No, that's up to you. He originally required all games were below
99.2. You came back with 10/7 DB. The WHOLE point of this debate is
for you to provide evidence that your scam CAN change a negative
expectation into a positive one AS YOU CLAIM. Now you come back

with

positive machines. If you say you've won playing positive machines
then we wouldn't be having this disucssion at all. We already know
that anyone could win playing positive expectation games.

And now you're showing how much stupider you are than even him. The
point of the bet is to play my strategy without alteration so he
could determine if I'm the liar about being able to win with it like
you both say I am. Why would I ever agree to change how I've been
playing? How dumb are you both anyway.... I'm waiting for his
response to this. If he doesn't confirm, I can't WAIT for the e-mails
to GT and me when the article's written about how he calls me a liar,
but then wants me to play differently than my written strategy
dictates. HAHAHA!! Oh what fun!

Either stick with the ORIGINAL terms or

admit your are a AFRAID to risk $250K using your system on NEGATIVE
machines.

Hello Bozo. Most of the games I play are far below 99.2% anyway, and
the average of all probably is somewhere around 98.5%. Sorry to give
you another wedgie, but that's why you're here!

> I was gonna wait until later in the response, but I think I'll
> humiliate you here right now! You see, all that intellect you
believe
> you have works against you most of the time with someone like me.

I

> actually have lived the life, while all you can do is trace life

on

> the Internet, make believe, and theorize. I've been to Pakistan
maybe
> 8 times, and whatever you looked up made you write your usual
> incomplete findings too soon. Here's what you were looking for:

The

> language is Pakistani. The DIALECTS are many. More than half the
> country speaks Pakistani dialects, while the minority speaks
several
> variation of the Indian subcontinental language. Facts, dicky,
facts.
> You're always seeming to be short on them, even when you try to

be

> smart and shoot yourself in the foot. You used a shotgun that

time.

> Stick with the facts, and understand them before you write

anything

> down.

More ho hum. If you want to call these languages dialects so be it.
FACT: The rest of the world calls them languages. None of your
worthless words can change that. Kind of like your VP approach. The
rest of the world knows and understands how the math works, you on
the other hand have your own dialect/strategy that has long been
proven a fraud ... just like you.

You seem lost like a wandering little boy again. That doesn't even
make your typical face-saving grade. Kinda irks you when someone who
actually knows what you have to look up and interpret puts it to you,
doesn't it? Ooohh....That's gotta HURT!

> > > Now passports mean nothing, like I've never been where I've
said.
> > > What theory does that come from?
> >
> > Passports mean absolutely nothing about what happened at these
> > locations. You're going to have to do better than this.
>
> About 'what happened' at these locations? Huh? What are you

talking

> about now??

You claimed you went these places as part of a job. A said it could
be simply a vacation. The passport does not provide any evidence

that supports one view over another.

You know anyone who's been to Pakistan 8 times for a "vacation"?
Hilarious!! How about Afghanastan, Turkmenistan, Bulgaria, Dagistan,
Algeria, Iran, Yemen, Kuwait, Kyrgistan, Tajikistan, Columbia,
Georgia, Burma, Laos, South Pole, Namibia, Somalia...etc. etc. etc.
Them's sure great places to vacation!! What a fool.

> Figure it out, Einstein. You don't believe anything I say anyway
> because you're such an envious person and don't want it to be in
your
> theories that I have had such an interesting life compared to a
> basement-dwelling patent-nerd who smelled other geek's farts for
> entertainment. No wonder you lead such a sour life riddled with
> gambling problems today.

Just as I thought. No REAL evidence. Now, how of those years

between overseas visits did you spend in prison?

Read it again and weep, oh you who have been nowhere and who now
fights video poker addiciton.

···

--- In FREEvpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "rgmustain" <rgmustain@a...> wrote:

--- In FREEvpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "Cogno Scienti" <cognoscienti@g...>
wrote:

You can't go one sentence without being caught in a lie? I very

carefullyspecified that unverified sessions would not count exactly to
prevent youfrom running your usual scam of last-minute, unverified,
midnight runs.

You can't do any face-saving here buddy. Read the 24 hour notice and
come back. No running away. What's your excuse now?

<<The
language is Pakistani. The DIALECTS are many.>>

I can't restrain myself from laughing at this idiotic remark. The word
"Pakistan" was coined in 1933. It is an acronym for Punjab, Afghan,

Kashmir,Sindh, and Baluchistan. "Pakistani language" indeed.

If I'm reading you right, you went to that site dicky did to scramble
up some more info and you, as usual, have no idea what it means. You're
as uneducated as you're cohort when it comes to dialects. Indeed. Now
get back to the bet. that's where you stand to make a quarter million
for a simple effort--or isn't it that easy any more....

Tick, tick, tick, tick

I know you're nervous right now and trying to figure your way out of
the mess you got yourself into. that's what comes when you take on
superiority. More brains, more guts, more money, more experience, more
sense, and more ability.

Tick, tick, tick..... Even a Squirming Weasel like Congo or dicky
couldn't get out of this one.

Tick, tick, tick.....

--- In FREEvpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "rgmustain" <rgmustain@a...>

wrote:

> > Hello McFly!?!? HELLO?? The point that weent zinging over your
head once agains, was that you rarely find time in your life to see
or do anything that ISN'T gambling related in one way or the other.
>
> No, you thought the movie was about gambling and it wasn't. Now,
> you're, once again, scrambling to save face. LMAO. It's so easy

for

> the rest of us to see the real you.

Um, I saw it twice. There's no getting away from the fact that you
likely said "Dear, there's a movie about a horse I'd like to go
see" "WTF Dick, are you NUTS"? "No, no, you've got it all wrong--
it's about a RACE horse!" "Oh, OK honey, I can handle not being at
the machines for a few hours only because the movie has SOMETHING

to

do with gambling"....but I'm warning you, I'm getting up and

leaving

for my daily fix of video poker if it lasts TOO LONG!"
Is there areally any doubt.....

Let me know when you have something intelligent to add. Wait, that
would take forever.

So, you saw the movie twice and thought it was about gambling. This
is great. You admit you saw something TWICE and walked away BOTH
times with no idea what the movie was about. Are you for real? Can
you say Duuuuuhhhhh in Pakistani? LMAO.

> I suggest you research a little about Don Quixote, because you

and

> this character are alike in so many ways.

Don't care about him, unless he was a successful businessman, a

great

lover, and a world-renowned gambler.

He's not even a real person. However, anyone your age who has never
heard of him shows you've NEVER attended college and probably dropped
out of high school. He is the main character of a very well known
book. And, you and Don think a lot alike.

>
> No, that's up to you. He originally required all games were below
> 99.2. You came back with 10/7 DB. The WHOLE point of this debate

is

> for you to provide evidence that your scam CAN change a negative
> expectation into a positive one AS YOU CLAIM. Now you come back
with
> positive machines. If you say you've won playing positive

machines

> then we wouldn't be having this disucssion at all. We already

know

> that anyone could win playing positive expectation games.

And now you're showing how much stupider you are than even him. The
point of the bet is to play my strategy without alteration so he
could determine if I'm the liar about being able to win with it

like

you both say I am.

The 99.2 clause was included in the initial challenge. It's now
perfectly clear that you have NO confidence that your system will
ever work on negative machines. This is exactly what I expected and
what I've been saying all along.

Why would I ever agree to change how I've been
playing? How dumb are you both anyway.... I'm waiting for his
response to this. If he doesn't confirm, I can't WAIT for the e-

mails

to GT and me when the article's written about how he calls me a

liar,

but then wants me to play differently than my written strategy
dictates. HAHAHA!! Oh what fun!

You've said all along your strategy works on ANY machine. Now that
you've backed out we all know you were lieing. Your idiotic monkey
boy rambles are as obvious as ever. They won't help you this time.

>
Either stick with the ORIGINAL terms or
> admit your are a AFRAID to risk $250K using your system on

NEGATIVE

> machines.

Hello Bozo. Most of the games I play are far below 99.2% anyway,

and

the average of all probably is somewhere around 98.5%. Sorry to

give

you another wedgie, but that's why you're here!

Then it should be no problem for you to agree to the bet as initially
offered. But, you didn't. I guess we all know who's got the wedgie in
his panties.

>
> > I was gonna wait until later in the response, but I think I'll
> > humiliate you here right now! You see, all that intellect you
> believe
> > you have works against you most of the time with someone like

me.

I
> > actually have lived the life, while all you can do is trace

life

on
> > the Internet, make believe, and theorize. I've been to Pakistan
> maybe
> > 8 times, and whatever you looked up made you write your usual
> > incomplete findings too soon. Here's what you were looking for:
The
> > language is Pakistani. The DIALECTS are many. More than half

the

> > country speaks Pakistani dialects, while the minority speaks
> several
> > variation of the Indian subcontinental language. Facts, dicky,
> facts.
> > You're always seeming to be short on them, even when you try to
be
> > smart and shoot yourself in the foot. You used a shotgun that
time.
> > Stick with the facts, and understand them before you write
anything
> > down.
>
> More ho hum. If you want to call these languages dialects so be

it.

> FACT: The rest of the world calls them languages. None of your
> worthless words can change that. Kind of like your VP approach.

The

> rest of the world knows and understands how the math works, you

on

> the other hand have your own dialect/strategy that has long been
> proven a fraud ... just like you.

You seem lost like a wandering little boy again. That doesn't even
make your typical face-saving grade. Kinda irks you when someone

who

actually knows what you have to look up and interpret puts it to

you,

doesn't it? Ooohh....That's gotta HURT!

Say that again in Pakistani. LMAO. You've been caught red-handed in
yet another lie. This is so eeeeaaaaaassssssssyyyyyyy.

>
> > > > Now passports mean nothing, like I've never been where I've
> said.
> > > > What theory does that come from?
> > >
> > > Passports mean absolutely nothing about what happened at

these

> > > locations. You're going to have to do better than this.
> >
> > About 'what happened' at these locations? Huh? What are you
talking
> > about now??
>
> You claimed you went these places as part of a job. A said it

could

> be simply a vacation. The passport does not provide any evidence
that supports one view over another.

You know anyone who's been to Pakistan 8 times for a "vacation"?
Hilarious!! How about Afghanastan, Turkmenistan, Bulgaria,

Dagistan,

Algeria, Iran, Yemen, Kuwait, Kyrgistan, Tajikistan, Columbia,
Georgia, Burma, Laos, South Pole, Namibia, Somalia...etc. etc. etc.
Them's sure great places to vacation!! What a fool.

And, I still don't know if you've ever been to one of them or if it
was a tag along with your wife.

>
> > Figure it out, Einstein. You don't believe anything I say

anyway

> > because you're such an envious person and don't want it to be

in

> your
> > theories that I have had such an interesting life compared to a
> > basement-dwelling patent-nerd who smelled other geek's farts

for

> > entertainment. No wonder you lead such a sour life riddled with
> > gambling problems today.
>
> Just as I thought. No REAL evidence. Now, how of those years
between overseas visits did you spend in prison?

Read it again and weep, oh you who have been nowhere and who now
fights video poker addiciton.

Once again you post a lot of words and nothing more. Absolutely no
evidence, no dates, no places (anyone can list off a bunch of
countries and the south pole). You'll have to do better than that.
Now, what prison was that?

···

--- In FREEvpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "aces_hii" <aces_hii@y...> wrote:

> Um, I saw it twice. There's no getting away from the fact that

you

> likely said "Dear, there's a movie about a horse I'd like to go
> see" "WTF Dick, are you NUTS"? "No, no, you've got it all wrong--
> it's about a RACE horse!" "Oh, OK honey, I can handle not being

at the machines for a few hours only because the movie has SOMETHING

to do with gambling"....but I'm warning you, I'm getting up and
leaving for my daily fix of video poker if it lasts TOO LONG!"
> Is there areally any doubt.....

Let me know when you have something intelligent to add. Wait, that
would take forever.

The truth kinda gets to after a while, doesn't it?

So, you saw the movie twice and thought it was about gambling. This
is great. You admit you saw something TWICE and walked away BOTH
times with no idea what the movie was about. Are you for real? Can
you say Duuuuuhhhhh in Pakistani? LMAO.

Let's see....Seabiscuit was a WHAT?? OH! A RACE HORSE of course!!
  

> Don't care about him, unless he was a successful businessman, a
great
> lover, and a world-renowned gambler.

He's not even a real person. However, anyone your age who has never
heard of him shows you've NEVER attended college and probably

dropped

out of high school. He is the main character of a very well known
book. And, you and Don think a lot alike.

Gee that was interesting.

The 99.2 clause was included in the initial challenge.

Leave it to you to miss something important, and to be selective in
what you understand.

> Why would I ever agree to change how I've been
> playing? How dumb are you both anyway.... I'm waiting for his
> response to this. If he doesn't confirm, I can't WAIT for the e-
mails
> to GT and me when the article's written about how he calls me a
liar,
> but then wants me to play differently than my written strategy
> dictates. HAHAHA!! Oh what fun!

You've said all along your strategy works on ANY machine.

It can and does--which is what gives you the wedgies!

> Hello Bozo. Most of the games I play are far below 99.2% anyway,
and the average of all probably is somewhere around 98.5%.

Then it should be no problem for you to agree to the bet as

initially offered. But, you didn't. I guess we all know who's got the
wedgie in his panties.

It wouldn't be....except for the point you're missing. My strategy is
not to look for any particular game and play it. It clearly states
that I play the games as I said before, and he said I am to play my
strategy. Just like you, he can't figure out what he wants. A or B,
not A & B. Requiring 99.2% or less is nonsense and it changes the
basis of the strategy, and is esp. stupid because the avg. EV of the
games I play is usually a lot less than that. And you & the dufus
wanted me to change that, which is exactly why he's gonna be crying
to his daddy when he reads about it along with tens of thousands of
others. Next time you and he might work harder to get it straight
before I make fools out of both of you--whic, BTW, is sooo easy and
fun to do!

> > FACT: The rest of the world calls them languages.

FACT: In Pakistan, they are called dialects by the Pakistanis. Maybe
if you even did anything important in your life you'd have gotten to
go to some of the places you like to make believe you're an expert
about, and you'd have learned the truth for yourself. Oh I forgot--
those PATENTS! Whooopieee!!! That'll sure get you worldy
knowledge......

Say that again in Pakistani. LMAO. You've been caught red-handed in
yet another lie. This is so eeeeaaaaaassssssssyyyyyyy.

I'm wondering just how much you ARE hurting right about now. Of
course, you're speaking to Congo and no one else, so you're probably
feeling good about that because neither of you has the intelligence
or the experience to know much more than pathological gambling.
  

> You know anyone who's been to Pakistan 8 times for a "vacation"?
> Hilarious!! How about Afghanastan, Turkmenistan, Bulgaria,
Dagistan,
> Algeria, Iran, Yemen, Kuwait, Kyrgistan, Tajikistan, Columbia,
> Georgia, Burma, Laos, South Pole, Namibia, Somalia...etc. etc.

etc.

> Them's sure great places to vacation!! What a fool.

And, I still don't know if you've ever been to one of them or if it
was a tag along with your wife.

No you don't know that nor much else, but you live by thoery anyway.
I'll bet you feel YOU'VE even been to Pakistan now that you looked up
some background on the country. Theoretical mind travel. Yippie!

Once again you post a lot of words and nothing more. Absolutely no
evidence, no dates, no places (anyone can list off a bunch of
countries and the south pole). You'll have to do better than that.
Now, what prison was that?

Wanna see one of my passports?? Wanna see the multiple work Visas??
Wanna see the Gov't docs that gave me my orders to go to the ME and
the Stans for missions?? Wanna bet I can show you all of this??? Now
tell me your escape clause.

···

--- In FREEvpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "rgmustain" <rgmustain@a...> wrote:

--- In FREEvpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "rgmustain" <rgmustain@a...>

wrote:

> > Um, I saw it twice. There's no getting away from the fact that
you
> > likely said "Dear, there's a movie about a horse I'd like to go
> > see" "WTF Dick, are you NUTS"? "No, no, you've got it all

wrong--

> > it's about a RACE horse!" "Oh, OK honey, I can handle not being
at the machines for a few hours only because the movie has

SOMETHING

> to do with gambling"....but I'm warning you, I'm getting up and
> leaving for my daily fix of video poker if it lasts TOO LONG!"
> > Is there areally any doubt.....
>
> Let me know when you have something intelligent to add. Wait,

that

> would take forever.

The truth kinda gets to after a while, doesn't it?

I guess is does. Let me know when you're done talking to yourself.

>
> So, you saw the movie twice and thought it was about gambling.

This

> is great. You admit you saw something TWICE and walked away BOTH
> times with no idea what the movie was about. Are you for real?

Can

> you say Duuuuuhhhhh in Pakistani? LMAO.

Let's see....Seabiscuit was a WHAT?? OH! A RACE HORSE of course!!

Yep. Now, maybe you'd better go back and see it a 3rd time. This time
try to understand what's going on.

> > Don't care about him, unless he was a successful businessman, a
> great
> > lover, and a world-renowned gambler.
>
> He's not even a real person. However, anyone your age who has

never

> heard of him shows you've NEVER attended college and probably
dropped
> out of high school. He is the main character of a very well known
> book. And, you and Don think a lot alike.

Gee that was interesting.

As you continue to post the truth begins to work its' way out, like
it or not. I suspect just about everything you've ever posted is a
lie.

> The 99.2 clause was included in the initial challenge.

Leave it to you to miss something important, and to be selective in
what you understand.

I didn't miss a thing. If you had any courage and trust in your scam
system you would have taken the bet. You don't, you didn't and it's
obvious to everyone that you are a liar and a fraud.

>
> > Why would I ever agree to change how I've been
> > playing? How dumb are you both anyway.... I'm waiting for his
> > response to this. If he doesn't confirm, I can't WAIT for the e-
> mails
> > to GT and me when the article's written about how he calls me a
> liar,
> > but then wants me to play differently than my written strategy
> > dictates. HAHAHA!! Oh what fun!
>
> You've said all along your strategy works on ANY machine.

It can and does--which is what gives you the wedgies!

No it doesn't. Otherwise you would have jumped on the bet as offered.
You can't hide anymore, Singer. You were presented with an
opportunity to "walk the walk" and you ran away and cowered behind
your runaway mouth. We'll be quoting these posts for months.

> > Hello Bozo. Most of the games I play are far below 99.2%

anyway,

> and the average of all probably is somewhere around 98.5%.

> Then it should be no problem for you to agree to the bet as
initially offered. But, you didn't. I guess we all know who's got

the

wedgie in his panties.

It wouldn't be....except for the point you're missing. My strategy

is

not to look for any particular game and play it. It clearly states
that I play the games as I said before, and he said I am to play my
strategy.

The only question is about positive vs. negative machines. Nothing
else is in question. You state you win playing negative
machines. "Walk the walk" Mr tictictic, or we will continue to call
you a coward and a liar FOREVER.

Just like you, he can't figure out what he wants. A or B,
not A & B. Requiring 99.2% or less is nonsense and it changes the
basis of the strategy,

BS. Now we are starting to hear the coward go "oh, but I didn't
really mean I won all that money on negative machines like I've been
saying for all these years" ... You are such a pathetic liar and now
you've been cornered and can't lie your way out anymore.

and is esp. stupid because the avg. EV of the
games I play is usually a lot less than that. And you & the dufus
wanted me to change that, which is exactly why he's gonna be crying
to his daddy when he reads about it along with tens of thousands of
others. Next time you and he might work harder to get it straight
before I make fools out of both of you--whic, BTW, is sooo easy and
fun to do!

"walk the walk", Mr tictictic, or you are simply admitting defeat!

> > > FACT: The rest of the world calls them languages.

FACT: In Pakistan, they are called dialects by the Pakistanis.

Maybe

if you even did anything important in your life you'd have gotten

to

go to some of the places you like to make believe you're an expert
about, and you'd have learned the truth for yourself. Oh I forgot--
those PATENTS! Whooopieee!!! That'll sure get you worldy
knowledge......

Just admit you've been shown up again. Your constant whining makes
you look foolish.

> Say that again in Pakistani. LMAO. You've been caught red-handed

in

> yet another lie. This is so eeeeaaaaaassssssssyyyyyyy.

I'm wondering just how much you ARE hurting right about now. Of
course, you're speaking to Congo and no one else, so you're

probably

feeling good about that because neither of you has the intelligence
or the experience to know much more than pathological gambling.

Let's hear some more whining from from Mr tictictic. You've been
caught in your stupid assertion and now all you can do is whine. Next
thing you know, youre going to be telling us we all speak American.

> > You know anyone who's been to Pakistan 8 times for

a "vacation"?

> > Hilarious!! How about Afghanastan, Turkmenistan, Bulgaria,
> Dagistan,
> > Algeria, Iran, Yemen, Kuwait, Kyrgistan, Tajikistan, Columbia,
> > Georgia, Burma, Laos, South Pole, Namibia, Somalia...etc. etc.
etc.
> > Them's sure great places to vacation!! What a fool.
>
> And, I still don't know if you've ever been to one of them or if

it

> was a tag along with your wife.

No you don't know that nor much else, but you live by thoery

anyway.

I'll bet you feel YOU'VE even been to Pakistan now that you looked

up

some background on the country. Theoretical mind travel. Yippie!

I wonder who would ever brag they've been someplace 8 times and know
nothing about the place? Only a liar and a fraud. By the way, I doubt
there are many here who would go to Pakistan by choice.

>
> Once again you post a lot of words and nothing more. Absolutely

no

> evidence, no dates, no places (anyone can list off a bunch of
> countries and the south pole). You'll have to do better than

that.

> Now, what prison was that?

Wanna see one of my passports??

There aren't many things easier to forge than a passport. However, I
don't care if you've never been outside of those prison walls, either
way you are still a liar and a fraud.

Wanna see the multiple work Visas??

Gee, how long would that take to print off on any computer?

This is what happens when you are a convicted liar. I won't believe a
single thing you say. And, whats more, I don't give a hoot.

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