My casino host at the Aquarius told me that even though Starbucks is closed, there's still wi-fi at a couple of the surrounding restaurants.
--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "John" <jasnow@...> wrote:
is there still wifi in laughlin at aquarious now that starbucks is gone?
any wifi at harrahs or any where else?Thanks
JAS
I don't mean to suggest that the bot is not potentially vulnerable. Sure it
is. Virtually any game in a casino is potentially beatable, and rake-free
poker is a big flashing sign "come beat me."
But poker seems to trick people into thinking that they know what they're
doing when they really have no clue. I saw a little bit of that in this
thread, hence my comments. If you think you know how to play heads-up limit
hold'em and exploit the bot, but you haven't played even 100,000 hands of
online heads-up limit hold'em, then I'd guess 999 out of 1000 you're
kidding yourself.
The problem I've heard with the bot is that if you play big enough that
pots start getting to W-2G threshold, it steals the button on every W2-G
and now it's very hard to beat. So there's a cap on how big you can play it.
The other thing about it is that if you have the skillset to beat it, you
can just rent a beachside condo in Mexico and play on Pokerstars to your
heart's content and never have to worry about heat. If you are an unknown
name, you'll get all the action you can handle on Stars until you've made
quite a lot of money.
Mickey. Online poker is returning to the USA, and we should have it here in
Nevada by the end of the year. I think the games in Nevada will be a decent
opportunity, but IMO it's an inevitability that it will come to California.
When that happens, money will rain from the heavens for some length of
time. I plan to drop everything and spend some quality time on the beach
when that happens, and it seems like it might be an opportunity you might
be interested in also. The willingness to spend the time to
reverse-engineer what your opponents are doing is the #1 thing required to
get good at poker, IMO. (That, plus the right mindset to interpret what
you're seeing and find counter-strategies.)
Oh, and it's hard to get people to play heads-up live in a casino, but I've
managed a few times, and they basically just fold away their buy-in to you
within about 15 minutes. Unfortunately, I've never had one rebuy, but maybe
I'm not obnoxious enough.
On Sat, Mar 30, 2013 at 12:10 AM, Mickey <mickeycrimm@yahoo.com> wrote:
**
--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "Douglas V" <tringlomane@...> wrote:
>
> Everyone should listen to what Ed Miller wrote. If you are not an
>expert at Heads-Up Limit Hold 'Em (and playing 6-max is NOT Heads-Up),
>the machine will crush you. It is simply a beast that will never quit.
>
>
I can't help myself. I'm always trying to think up ways to exploit a
situation. And I think we have an exploitable situation with this poker
bot. I'm not gonna do it myself. I'm pushing 60 years old, secluded in
Montana, and enjoy a very high hourly rate off the machines here. I just
mosey around everyday and pick the money off. But for you young guns out
there still trying to take on the world, this is what I would do if I were
you. It comes from an old Johnny Moss story from the fifties.One day a $400-$800 California Lowball game broke out at the Desert Inn.
They were putting lots of money on the table everyday. Guys were coming in
with cardboard boxes full of money. Moss wanted to tag the game. But he had
a problem. He had never played California Lowball before. What to do? What
to do? What to do?He flew to California and sat in with the Little Old Ladies of Gardena who
played $10-20 California Lowball everyday. They were reputed to be the
toughest Lowball players in the whole state. Moss sat in the games for a
week. He learned every move them little old ladies had. Then he flew back
to Vegas and the Desert Inn $400-$800 game. It took him three weeks to
break the game.I've never played head up limit holdem. But I've seen it many times,
usually at night, at the Horseshoe. Two guys would get into it and
challenge each other to a head up game. The house would deal the game with
a discounted rake, usually $2, because they were cranking out many more
hands per hour. And it was usually a $20-$40 game.If I were a young gun today I would use that poker bot to make me battle
tough at heads up play. I would play the cheapest game, the .50-$1 game. I
would reverse engineer every hand that bot played. The reason that bot wins
is because he is causing human beings to make incorrect decisions. I would
learn every move that bot has. Once I feel like I've learned enough, that
I'm tough enough, I'm gonna march right into the poker rooms of Las Vegas
and sit in the ring games. And when the timing is right, I'm gonna rope
people into heads up play.
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McDonald's at 2900 casino drive would be inside Harrah's. If there's a signal there, it's news to me. jiwire might assume that all MacDonalds's have a signal, but they sometimes don't (especially in casinos).
I'm pretty sure the McDonald's across the river in Bullhead City does have a signal. Not too far to go, right across from Edgewater.
On my last visit I could not get a signal at Subway or McDonalds in Aquarius (former location of Starbucks).
The outlet mall has a free signal in the food court.
I think that little bar in front of Harrah's, Old Town, used to have a signal, not sure about this one.
There is nice an independent coffee shop in Laughlin's business district with a free signal. Open limited hours, 8am-2pm, closed Sundays. Just past the library, next to Adalpe's supermarket (same building where the old coffee shop/travel agency used to be). Good coffee & food. They could use some support, business is not good.
Avi has free internet, they give the password to hotel guests. For a long time it was username "casino" and password "guest" if I remember right, it never seemed to change. You can catch the signal all over the property (food court, etc).
At the Riverside, I noticed that their paid internet system is a little cheaper than the others (maybe $8 for 24 hours, and I think it was only about $20 for a week) and it doesn't seem to be limited to hotel guests. You just open your browser, input credit info, choose a username & password, no hotel info required.
On my last 2 trips, I was unable to get a decent signal from my hotspot phone while staying at Colorado Belle (low room facing the river) or Edgewater (high room facing the river). I had enough signal for phone calls, and the indicator showed 4 bars, but web access was slow or not at all. They couldn't be blocking it, could they? Maybe I should try a room facing west.
________________________________
From: tomflush <tomflush@nyc.rr.com>
To: vpFREE@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Saturday, March 30, 2013 1:44 AM
Subject: Re: [vpFREE] Re: wi fi in laughlin
if you go to http://v4.jiwire.com/search-wifi-hotspots.htm?city_id=3448838,
it will list about 25 sites ( some free ) in the area.
Looking over the list , I notice that the Mcdonalds at 2900 S casino drive
is one of your best free choices.
regards...Tom
----- Original Message -----
From: "the7thwarrior" <mailto:Judy%40realtor.com>
To: <mailto:vpFREE%40yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Saturday, March 30, 2013 2:42 AM
Subject: [vpFREE] Re: wi fi in laughlin
You can always go to the public library.
They even have computers you can use.--- In mailto:vpFREE%40yahoogroups.com, "John" <jasnow@...> wrote:
is there still wifi in laughlin at aquarious now that starbucks is gone?
any wifi at harrahs or any where else?Thanks
JAS
[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Not exactly:
The blinds are forced bets posted by players to the left of the dealer button in flop-style poker games. The number of blinds is usually two, but it can range from none to three.
The small blind is placed by the player to the left of the dealer button and the big blind is then posted by the next player to the left. The one exception is when there are only two players (a "heads-up" game), when the player on the button is the small blind, and the other player is the big blind. (Both the player and the bet may be referred to as big or small blind.)
After the cards are dealt, the player to the left of the big blind is the first to act during the first betting round. If all players call the big blind, the big blind is then given an extra opportunity to raise. This is known as a live blind. If the live blind checks, the betting round then ends.
Generally, the "big blind" is equal to the minimum bet. The "small blind" is normally half the big blind. In cases where posting exactly half the big blind is impractical due to the big blind being some odd-valued denomination, the small blind is rounded down to the nearest practical value. For example, if the big blind in a live table game is $3 then the small blind will usually be $1 or $2 since most casinos do not distribute large quantities of $0.50 poker chips.
The blinds exist because Omaha and Texas hold 'em are frequently played without antes, allowing a player to fold his hand without placing a bet. The blind bets introduce a regular cost to take part in the game, thus inducing a player to enter pots in an attempt to compensate for that expense.
--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "Douglas V" <tringlomane@...> wrote:
The button is the SB and button preflop. He will act first preflop and last postflop.
There's a four raise cap, so a 20-40 game ($10 machine) has a max pot of $1000. Casinos can put machines into a special mode to get around the W2G lockup problem, but I don't know if that is available or not on this machine. IGT could fix it so that the machine doesn't steal the button on taxables, but maybe they like that feature. The button should just go back and forth anyway, sure certain people will play off any left button hands, but someone's gonna play that button anyway. My guess is that IGT considers the button stealing to be part of the hold/rake of the machine, player beware I guess. Initially they had a "feature" where it was hard to turn off the side bet, or the side bet would turn itself on, I imagine gaming said NEIN to that one. They should really make that side bet progressive, or better yet put in a bad beat type bet. Also as the guy on the radio show pointed out, you have to be careful with the size of your cashout ticket, and if you're playing for comp don't leave any comp balance on your card, the casinos will steal that, but most slot players already know about that. Oh and don't forget to put Nersesian's number on your cellphone, you know, just in case it gets ugly.
--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, Ed Miller <ed.miller@...> wrote:
I don't mean to suggest that the bot is not potentially vulnerable. Sure it
is. Virtually any game in a casino is potentially beatable, and rake-free
poker is a big flashing sign "come beat me."But poker seems to trick people into thinking that they know what they're
doing when they really have no clue. I saw a little bit of that in this
thread, hence my comments. If you think you know how to play heads-up limit
hold'em and exploit the bot, but you haven't played even 100,000 hands of
online heads-up limit hold'em, then I'd guess 999 out of 1000 you're
kidding yourself.The problem I've heard with the bot is that if you play big enough that
pots start getting to W-2G threshold, it steals the button on every W2-G
and now it's very hard to beat. So there's a cap on how big you can play it.The other thing about it is that if you have the skillset to beat it, you
can just rent a beachside condo in Mexico and play on Pokerstars to your
heart's content and never have to worry about heat. If you are an unknown
name, you'll get all the action you can handle on Stars until you've made
quite a lot of money.Mickey. Online poker is returning to the USA, and we should have it here in
Nevada by the end of the year. I think the games in Nevada will be a decent
opportunity, but IMO it's an inevitability that it will come to California.
When that happens, money will rain from the heavens for some length of
time. I plan to drop everything and spend some quality time on the beach
when that happens, and it seems like it might be an opportunity you might
be interested in also. The willingness to spend the time to
reverse-engineer what your opponents are doing is the #1 thing required to
get good at poker, IMO. (That, plus the right mindset to interpret what
you're seeing and find counter-strategies.)Oh, and it's hard to get people to play heads-up live in a casino, but I've
managed a few times, and they basically just fold away their buy-in to you
within about 15 minutes. Unfortunately, I've never had one rebuy, but maybe
I'm not obnoxious enough.On Sat, Mar 30, 2013 at 12:10 AM, Mickey <mickeycrimm@...> wrote:
> **
>
>
> --- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "Douglas V" <tringlomane@> wrote:
> >
> > Everyone should listen to what Ed Miller wrote. If you are not an
> >expert at Heads-Up Limit Hold 'Em (and playing 6-max is NOT Heads-Up),
> >the machine will crush you. It is simply a beast that will never quit.
> >
> >
> I can't help myself. I'm always trying to think up ways to exploit a
> situation. And I think we have an exploitable situation with this poker
> bot. I'm not gonna do it myself. I'm pushing 60 years old, secluded in
> Montana, and enjoy a very high hourly rate off the machines here. I just
> mosey around everyday and pick the money off. But for you young guns out
> there still trying to take on the world, this is what I would do if I were
> you. It comes from an old Johnny Moss story from the fifties.
>
> One day a $400-$800 California Lowball game broke out at the Desert Inn.
> They were putting lots of money on the table everyday. Guys were coming in
> with cardboard boxes full of money. Moss wanted to tag the game. But he had
> a problem. He had never played California Lowball before. What to do? What
> to do? What to do?
>
> He flew to California and sat in with the Little Old Ladies of Gardena who
> played $10-20 California Lowball everyday. They were reputed to be the
> toughest Lowball players in the whole state. Moss sat in the games for a
> week. He learned every move them little old ladies had. Then he flew back
> to Vegas and the Desert Inn $400-$800 game. It took him three weeks to
> break the game.
>
> I've never played head up limit holdem. But I've seen it many times,
> usually at night, at the Horseshoe. Two guys would get into it and
> challenge each other to a head up game. The house would deal the game with
> a discounted rake, usually $2, because they were cranking out many more
> hands per hour. And it was usually a $20-$40 game.
>
> If I were a young gun today I would use that poker bot to make me battle
> tough at heads up play. I would play the cheapest game, the .50-$1 game. I
> would reverse engineer every hand that bot played. The reason that bot wins
> is because he is causing human beings to make incorrect decisions. I would
> learn every move that bot has. Once I feel like I've learned enough, that
> I'm tough enough, I'm gonna march right into the poker rooms of Las Vegas
> and sit in the ring games. And when the timing is right, I'm gonna rope
> people into heads up play.
>
>
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You need to put a lot of thought into how you plan to move your money, assuming you're not just going to retire in Mexico. Nersesian just had a case where some gamblers had their roll and pocket cash confiscated by DEA in Atlanta, he talked about it on Dancer's radio show.
--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, Ed Miller <ed.miller@...> wrote:
The other thing about it is that if you have the skillset to beat it, you
can just rent a beachside condo in Mexico and play on Pokerstars to your
heart's content and never have to worry about heat. If you are an unknown
name, you'll get all the action you can handle on Stars until you've made
quite a lot of money.
Prepaid Debit Cards.
--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "nightoftheiguana2000" <nightoftheiguana2000@...> wrote:
You need to put a lot of thought into how you plan to move your money, assuming you're not just going to retire in Mexico. Nersesian just had a case where some gamblers had their roll and pocket cash confiscated by DEA in Atlanta, he talked about it on Dancer's radio show.
Texas Holdem is a fight for the blind money.
I used to play the 10-20 games at the Horseshoe and the Mirage. Of course you know that when you sit down in a game you either have to post a big blind or wait until the big blind gets to you....or you can wait until the blinds pass and post in 9th position, which most players do.
This rule of having to post or wait for the big blind was instituted because of a move by David Sklansky. Before the rule was instituted Sklansky would sit down in a game and look at cards until the big blind got to him. Then he would get up and look for an open seat at another table. When he found one he would again look at cards until the big blind got to him, then get up and look for a seat at another table, etc., etc. Sklansky never posted any blinds. LOL! When they got enough of his shenanigans they instituted the posting rule.
--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "bradr19" <briffel@...> wrote:
The blinds exist because Omaha and Texas hold 'em are frequently played without antes, allowing a player to fold his hand without placing a bet. The blind bets introduce a regular cost to take part in the game, thus inducing a player to enter pots in an attempt to compensate for that expense.
<<You need to put a lot of thought into how you plan to move your money,
assuming you're not just going to retire in Mexico. Nersesian just had a
case where some gamblers had their roll and pocket cash confiscated by DEA
in Atlanta, he talked about it on Dancer's radio show.>>
I'm not sure I understand the issue. Isn't the money online? There's no
transporting of cash necessary.
Cogno
This reminds me of something I used to do about ten years ago when Paradise Poker was going strong. It seemed like every morning at about 7:00 a.m. they would re-start the software. There would be a notice that a re-set was coming and to finish up your hands. Quickly, all the tables would shut down. The re-set would last for a few minutes. Well, I would try to be ready when it started up again to jump into the #2 Seat at the $20-40 game. Whenever they did this the button would automatically be placed back in Seat #1, at every table. When it started up again, the button would move into Seat #2, and become the button. So I'd take all the free hands I could get, and then cashout and go back to my $2-4 game, lol, when the blinds came. They did that almost every morning for ages. Yes, I know, shame on me for angle shooting. I must have been inspired by Sklansky's story. lol
--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "Mickey" <mickeycrimm@...> wrote:
I used to play the 10-20 games at the Horseshoe and the Mirage. Of course you know that when you sit down in a game you either have to post a big blind or wait until the big blind gets to you....or you can wait until the blinds pass and post in 9th position, which most players do.
This rule of having to post or wait for the big blind was instituted because of a move by David Sklansky. Before the rule was instituted Sklansky would sit down in a game and look at cards until the big blind got to him. Then he would get up and look for an open seat at another table. When he found one he would again look at cards until the big blind got to him, then get up and look for a seat at another table, etc., etc. Sklansky never posted any blinds. LOL! When they got enough of his shenanigans they instituted the posting rule.
Very smart...
________________________________
From: Bob Bartop <bobbartop@yahoo.com>
To: vpFREE@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Monday, April 1, 2013 8:13 PM
Subject: [vpFREE] Re: Luck versus Skill question for Iguana and Texas Hold'em players
--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "Mickey" <mickeycrimm@...> wrote:
I used to play the 10-20 games at the Horseshoe and the Mirage. Of course you know that when you sit down in a game you either have to post a big blind or wait until the big blind gets to you....or you can wait until the blinds pass and post in 9th position, which most players do.
This rule of having to post or wait for the big blind was instituted because of a move by David Sklansky. Before the rule was instituted Sklansky would sit down in a game and look at cards until the big blind got to him. Then he would get up and look for an open seat at another table. When he found one he would again look at cards until the big blind got to him, then get up and look for a seat at another table, etc., etc. Sklansky never posted any blinds. LOL! When they got enough of his shenanigans they instituted the posting rule.
This reminds me of something I used to do about ten years ago when Paradise Poker was going strong. It seemed like every morning at about 7:00 a.m. they would re-start the software. There would be a notice that a re-set was coming and to finish up your hands. Quickly, all the tables would shut down. The re-set would last for a few minutes. Well, I would try to be ready when it started up again to jump into the #2 Seat at the $20-40 game. Whenever they did this the button would automatically be placed back in Seat #1, at every table. When it started up again, the button would move into Seat #2, and become the button. So I'd take all the free hands I could get, and then cashout and go back to my $2-4 game, lol, when the blinds came. They did that almost every morning for ages. Yes, I know, shame on me for angle shooting. I must have been inspired by Sklansky's story. lol
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I've been following this thread with interest and now will add some comments.
I recall reading about "Texas Hold Em Heads Up" about a year ago, quite possibly on VPFree. That post included a link to an article on the 2+2 poker forum, which I read and saved.
I recently was in Vegas and played the game at Bellagio, the Venetian, and Caesars Palace for about two hours each. It's POSSIBLE that I was a bit unlucky, but I agree with Ed Miller's earlier post to the effect that you'll get "slaughtered" if you aren't an EXPERT heads up player. I lost $500 in about five total hours of play at $2/$4 limits. As Arnold Schwarzenegger said in one of his movies, "I'll be back," but I'll do a lot of reading and play-money practicing then.
Before live limit poker was basically destroyed by the no-limit revolution, I regularly played $15-30 and $20-40 in Vegas, California, and my home state. I never a big winner, but I was a consistent annual winner at those levels. Also, the 2+2 article prepared me for the machine's extreme aggression, and "calling station" stickiness, which would be suicidal in a 9-10 player game, but are correct tactics heads-up. That background helped me, but obviously not very much.
Some notes follow.
(1) The game is 2-chips/4-chips. That means that if you choose $1 denomination, you'll be playing $2/$4 limit poker. $1 is the smallest denomination I saw, but someone else here has reported seeing a 50-cent option, in which case the limits would be $1/$2.
(2) Except for the very best heads-up players, I think it would be suicidal to try playing the game to generate offers. Bellagio doesn't even award points for play. Venetian requires $6,500 action to earn a Grazie Point. At Caesars, it seemed to be either $90 or $45 to earn a Tier Credit. Even there, you'd have to play at least the $10/$20 limit for many hours to generate decent offers. And you'd have to be good enough to at least break even while playing. I'm not.
(3)I don't think anyone else has mentioned that the game has a "peek" feature that allows you to see the opponent's cards after every hand -- even if one of you folds. When the machine folded pre-Flop, it always had unsuited hands like 9-2, 10-3 and similar -- but it OCCASIONALLY raised pre-flop with those hands. The only pre-Flop fold with a face card I saw was unsuited Q-4.
(4) As advertised, the machine is EXTREMELY aggressive pre-Flop. In position, it always raises when it doesn't fold. Even out of position, it usually raises. I had some success by just calling with good hands in the small-blind/dealer position, letting the machine raise, and then putting in a second raise myself. It seems to be a sucker for that play, but it's also possible/probable that it noted my tricky aggression and played the rest of those hands more cautiously than it otherwise would have.
(5) If I raised pre-Flop and the machine folded, it almost always had a hand that it would have folded anyway if it had that option.
(6) After all the cards are out, it seemed to at least call with any pair, any Ace, and sometimes even any King. So there's no point in bluffing unless you have an absolutely hopeless hand. There were a couple times when I bluffed successfully at the end with a missed draw (e.g., an 8-7 flush or straight draw)and got the machine to fold a "higher nothing" (e.g., Q-6).
(7) On the other side, the machine will bluff with nothing throughout the hand (but not very often at the end) and (with cards still to come) will semi-bluff with stuff as weak as an inside straight draw. It's hard for someone accustomed to 9-10 player games to call those bets without having some kind of hand. I probably should have RE-raised more often when I instead either called or folded.
I hope that those observations help someone. I do intend to play the game again and would enjoy communicating with anyone who's similarly stubborn.
The GMan
When the machine folded pre-Flop, it always had unsuited hands like 9-2, 10-3 and similar -- but it OCCASIONALLY raised pre-flop with those hands. The only pre-Flop fold with a face card I saw was unsuited Q-4.
It's got some kind of ratio, like for Q4o maybe 90% raise and 10% fold. On the button it's doing something like raise 80% and fold 20% and off the button it's doing something like reraise 33% and fold 5% and call the rest. Occasionally it just checks on the button, which always means something, you should keep track of what that means and play accordingly. If you just call on the button, it thinks you're weak and raises maybe 90%, which gives you a chance to reraise. Eventually it should figure out what you're up to (check-raising your best hands, right?), but then again maybe not, keep in mind it's just a bunch of nuts and bolts and overheated axle grease, not human. A lot of people claim it doesn't adapt to your play, which would seem to be a serious weakness, but I think it does eventually adapt, but it is slow about it, so hopefully by that time you have taken countermeasures, now checking your weak hands and bluffing out on the flop. Slow to adapt should also be a weakness. Also if you constantly check-raise your best hands, your raised hands become weaker, and the bot might figure that out and exploit as well, you always want to be on the lookout for any sneak attacks on your other ranges. Keep observing how it plays and pay attention to variations, some are just random, some are just to throw you off your game, but others are important.
On the other side, the machine will bluff with nothing throughout the hand (but not very often at the end) and (with cards still to come) will semi-bluff with stuff as weak as an inside straight draw. It's hard for someone accustomed to 9-10 player games to call those bets without having some kind of hand. I probably should have RE-raised more often when I instead either called or folded.
You should reraise your best hands for value, and then bluff reraise a certain amount of junk such that the machine gets the same odds whether it calls or folds, that way it can't just put you on a strong hand anytime you reraise. Adjust the amount of bluff reraising to its fold frequency, if it folds a lot you should raise junk more, if it starts calling a lot you should raise junk less, and so on. It really does not like calling (so it's a bully?), and you can exploit that, but eventually I think it learns that it needs to do some calling, not just raise or fold. Try to call down (get in cheap) the middle hands (low pair, reasonable kickers) for value.
I hope that those observations help someone. I do intend to play the game again and would enjoy communicating with anyone who's similarly stubborn.
There you go, trust me, you don't need to be an expert head's up player, however you do need to know your way around slots and slot club systems. That radio show archive I posted earlier about the former pit boss turned machine pro was mostly about problems with slots and slot clubs (like the crazy M-Life) than about expert heads up poker. From what I see a lot of poker room regulars don't like this machine, because they have no clue about how to play slots and the kinds of insane angle shooting and just plain cheating that casinos use against slot players, or aren't flexible enough to gamble outside of their comfort zone in the poker room.
--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "ggman444" <gleng4444@...> wrote:
google.com/search?q=three+barrel+bluffing
Other useful terms:
google.com/search?q=continuation+betting
google.com/search?q=river+betting
google.com/search?q=reading+the+board
google.com/search?q=donk+betting
google.com/search?q=poker+ranges
--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "ggman444" <gleng4444@...> wrote:
On the other side, the machine will bluff with nothing throughout the hand (but not very often at the end) and (with cards still to come) will semi-bluff with stuff as weak as an inside straight draw.
Skalansky and I would play against each other on the Nintendo Golf game at the Bicycle Casino. We were the best there was at that game and playing for $100 a game neither one of us could get up much on the other. Those were the days!