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> All you're doing is trying to talk me out of it and
> you're losing that battle. I keep trying to get you to get it

done so we can get the details finalized and bet/forfeiture money
deposited ASAP and so you won't chicken out after it's in there, and
with your cowardly stalling and waffling you think I'll have had
enough of your nonsense and call it off.

Of course you are ... You are looking doubly cowardly at this time.
You continue to manufacture conditions hoping I will not meet them
instead just backing out.

Just how much pussy-footing around will you go thru before discover
there's no backing out? No matter how hard you try to. There is such
a thing as dignity....even for a nerd.

> Too bad little dicky. You wanted it now it's real, and if real

hurts then it hurts. You know I'll destroy you on the court and you
and your wimpy 'pro-bowling' is about as useless as it gets when
facing someone like me. Face it--you're painted into a corner, and
all the squirming and squealing in the world won't get you out until
you're made a fool of in Minn.

More monkey boy bravado does not hide your obvious attempts to get
out of a no-win dituation.

Gee, sure doesn't look like quits now does it little dicky. It only
adds to your anxiety, but you asked for it!

Here's my first pass at an agreement. I can't wait to hear the

crying:

Without reading it yet, I'm wondering what site you pulled it from....

JOINT AGREEMENT
This Joint Operating Agreement is dated as of this 7th day of July,
2006, between Rob Singer, hereinafter called "Player1" and Dick
Mustain, hereinafter called "Player2." Player1 and Player2 are
jointly referred to as the "Players."
WHEREAS, Player1 and Player2 desire to jointly conduct "the

sporting

contest" under the terms and conditions set forth herein.
NOW, THEREFORE, in consideration of the premises and of the mutual
agreements, representations, warranties, provisions and covenants
herein, Player1 and Player2, intending to be legally bound, agree

as follows:

HAHAHA! Warranties? Covenants?? When you pull a Contract, you might
want to read thru it first before presenting it to an expert.

After reading the entire 'document' (one that has numerous
inconsistencies for the event we're planning) you left out one
important clause and inserted another that we never discussed. First,
as you've been told MANY times, there will be a forfeiture clause,
and the deadline for that is 10 June. You still haven't named the
amount to be forfeited--$25k or $40k. And the nonsense about either
of us being medically unable to proceed is pure nonsense. Suck it up
like am. Or is this more likely your way out.....

1. Summary of Agreement

From the date of this Agreement through the completion of the
sporting contest, but in no event later than July 18th, 2006, the
Players shall conduct a sporting contest as defined herein jointly
under the terms and conditions set forth herein, or as may be
subsequently agreed from time to time in writing.
This Agreement sets forth each and every term or condition of the
sporting event. No party hereto shall be liable for the payment or
performance of any debts, obligations, or liabilities of the other
party whether now owing or hereafter incurred, unless expressly
assumed in writing in this Agreement.

2. Sporting Contest

1. Governance. The operations shall be governed by this agreement.
a) The Players agree to invest $40,000 into the sporting contest by
7th day of July, 2006.
b) Player2 will be responsible for reserving all facilities and
providing an escrow account for the investment.
2) Definition. The sporting contest shall consist of two separate
matches.
a) Match 1, the tennis match, consists or up to seven (7) sets of

no-

add tennis games as defined by the USTA. Each game consists of up

to

seven (7) points, the first player to win four (4) points is the
winner of that game. The first player to win six (6) games, by at
least a two game margin, is the winner of that set. In the event of

a

6-6 tie, a twelve (12) point standard tie-breaker shall be used to
determine the winner. The first player to win 4 sets is declared

the

winner of this match.
b) Match 2, the bowling match, consists of ten (10) standard

bowling

games as defined by the USBC. The Players results are the sum of

all

the games they complete. The player with the highest total score is
declared the winner of this match.

3. Distributions. Net Income from operations shall be allocated as
follows:
a) Winner of Match 1, the tennis match, shall be awarded $40,000.
b) Winner of Match 2, the bowling match, shall be awarded $40,000.

4. Dates. The sporting contest, as defined in 2), will be held on
the 17th day of July, 2006. The matches are held as follows:
a) Match 1 will start at 8:00AM with 15 minutes of warmup preceding
the match. Match 1 will be held at the Rochester Tennis Center,
Rochester, MN. In the event of rain, the match will be moved to the
Rochester Indoor Tennis Center.
b) Match 2 will start at 1:00PM or one hour after the tennis

match,

if that match lasts longer than 4 hours, with 15 minutes of warmup
preceding the match. Match 2 will be held at Recreation Lanes,
Rochester, MN.

5. Obligations. Neither the Player1 or Player2 shall assume any
obligation of the other except as expressly agreed to in writing.
Each party shall indemnify the other against all contracts,
obligations and liabilities of the other party, accrued or
contingent, due or not due.

3. General and Administrative Provisions

6. Successors and Assigns. This Agreement shall be binding upon and
shall inure to the benefit of the respective parties hereto and

their

legal successors and assigns.

7. Entire Agreement. This written Agreement contains the sole and
entire Agreement between the parties hereto and supersedes any and
all other agreements between them. The parties acknowledge and

agree

that neither of them has made any representations inducing the
execution and delivery thereof except such representations as are
specifically set forth herein, and each party acknowledges that

they

have relied upon their own judgment in entering into this

Agreement.

The parties further acknowledge that any statements or
representations that may have heretofore been made by either of

them

to the other are void and of no effect and that neither of them has
relied thereon in connection with their dealings with the other.
There are no promises, terms, conditions, or obligations other than
those contained herein; and this Agreement shall supersede all
previous communications, representations, or agreements, either
verbal or written between the parties.

8. Choice of Law. This Agreement has been negotiated, executed and
delivered at and shall be deemed to have been made in Nevada. This
Agreement shall be governed by and construed in accordance with the
domestic laws of the State of Nevada without giving effect to any
choice or conflict of law provision or rule (whether of the State

of

Nevada or any other jurisdiction) that would cause the application

of

the laws of any jurisdiction other than the State of Nevada.

9. Valid Agreement. If any provision of this Agreement shall for

any

reason, be held violative of any applicable law, then the

invalidity

of such a specific provision herein shall not be held to invalidate
any other provisions herein, which other provisions shall remain in
full force and effect unless removal of said invalid provisions
destroys the legitimate purposes of this Agreement, in which event
this Agreement shall be cancelled.

10. Brokers. Both parties warrant that no brokers were involved in
this transaction.

11. No Waiver. The waiver by one party of the performance of any
covenants, condition or promise shall not invalidate this Agreement
nor shall it be considered a waiver by such party of any other
covenants, condition or promise hereunder. The waiver by any party

of

the time for performing any act shall not constitute a waiver of

the

time for performing any other act or an identical act required to

be

performed at a later time. The exercise of any remedy shall not
exclude other consistent remedies.

12. Costs. It is specifically understood by the parties hereto that
each party shall be responsible, liable and obligated to bear its

own

expenses incurred or to be incurred in connection with the
preparation, negotiation, documentation, and the Closing of the
transactions contemplated by this Agreement.

13. Arbitration. Any dispute between the parties arising from this
Agreement will be submitted to arbitration in accordance with the
National Arbitration Rules and the losing party shall pay the
reasonable attorney fees and costs of the prevailing party.

14. Termination. This Agreement may be terminated by Player1 or
Player2 upon the occurrence of any or all of the following events:
a) by both parties upon written consent of Player1 and Player2.
b) by both parties upon expiration of the original date.

15. Postponement. This Agreement may be postponed by Player1 or
Player2 upon the occurrence of any or all of the following events:
a) by either party in the event of medically documented injury (as
described by licensed physician) more than 5 days prior to the
sporting contest. In this event, the Agreement shall be postponed
until said injury is recovered. At that time the sporting event

will

be rescheduled at a mutually agreeable date, time and place no

later

···

--- In FREEvpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "rgmustain" <rgmustain@...> wrote:

than one (1) month after said injury is recovered.

IN WITNESS WHEREOF, the parties hereto have executed this Agreement
on the date first above.

Player 1, Rob Singer ______________________________
Player 2, Dick Mustain ______________________________

--- In FREEvpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "rsing1111" <rsinger1111@...>
wrote:

> > All you're doing is trying to talk me out of it and
> > you're losing that battle. I keep trying to get you to get it
done so we can get the details finalized and bet/forfeiture money
deposited ASAP and so you won't chicken out after it's in there,

and

with your cowardly stalling and waffling you think I'll have had
enough of your nonsense and call it off.

> Of course you are ... You are looking doubly cowardly at this

time.

> You continue to manufacture conditions hoping I will not meet

them

> instead just backing out.

Just how much pussy-footing around will you go thru before discover
there's no backing out? No matter how hard you try to. There is

such

a thing as dignity....even for a nerd.

You don't know the meaning of the word "dignity". Your continual
search for a way out shows what a complete loser you are.

> > Too bad little dicky. You wanted it now it's real, and if real
hurts then it hurts. You know I'll destroy you on the court and you
and your wimpy 'pro-bowling' is about as useless as it gets when
facing someone like me. Face it--you're painted into a corner, and
all the squirming and squealing in the world won't get you out

until

you're made a fool of in Minn.

> More monkey boy bravado does not hide your obvious attempts to

get

> out of a no-win dituation.

Gee, sure doesn't look like quits now does it little dicky. It only
adds to your anxiety, but you asked for it!

It looks exactly like you are "quitting". Each and every time you try
to throw in an arbitrary condition it SMACKS of cowardice.

> Here's my first pass at an agreement. I can't wait to hear the
crying:

Without reading it yet, I'm wondering what site you pulled it

from....

I looked through many sites to find something "close". This was the
best I could find. It is not perfect but it's a good place to start.
What part of "first pass" escapes your intellectual capabilities?

> JOINT AGREEMENT
> This Joint Operating Agreement is dated as of this 7th day of

July,

> 2006, between Rob Singer, hereinafter called "Player1" and Dick
> Mustain, hereinafter called "Player2." Player1 and Player2 are
> jointly referred to as the "Players."
> WHEREAS, Player1 and Player2 desire to jointly conduct "the
sporting
> contest" under the terms and conditions set forth herein.
> NOW, THEREFORE, in consideration of the premises and of the

mutual

> agreements, representations, warranties, provisions and covenants
> herein, Player1 and Player2, intending to be legally bound, agree
as follows:

HAHAHA! Warranties? Covenants?? When you pull a Contract, you might
want to read thru it first before presenting it to an expert.

What part of "first pass" escapes your intellectual capabilities?

After reading the entire 'document' (one that has numerous
inconsistencies for the event we're planning) you left out one
important clause and inserted another that we never discussed.

First,

as you've been told MANY times, there will be a forfeiture clause,

A forfeiture clause in inherent in the description. After signing the
contract there is NO way out. If either party does not show up they
lose. That is, in effect, a $40K forfeiture.

and the deadline for that is 10 June.

The deadline is July 7. You asked me to do the contract and that is
it. Your obvious attempt to back out through claiming you need an
earlier date is laughable.

You still haven't named the
amount to be forfeited--$25k or $40k. And the nonsense about either
of us being medically unable to proceed is pure nonsense. Suck it

up

like am. Or is this more likely your way out.....

The whole idea of the match is to find out who is best. If either one
of us gets hurt between now and the match date, then we would never
know. As such, I allowed for a medical POSTPONEMENT and then only
with a licensed doctor's statement to back it up. There's no way out
once the contract is signed. An injury would only delay the match.
This is very typical of sporting matches (like boxing) to have a
medical clause.

The contract as I showed it is a reasonable start. If you have
problems with the structure, wording, etc. then send those comments
to me via email and I will incorporate them. You can forget about
June 10th or removal of the medical postponement clause. If you want
to use these items to back out, so be it. I'm sure everyone will see
exactly what you're doing ... and what I predicted all along.

> Just how much pussy-footing around will you go thru before

discover

> there's no backing out? No matter how hard you try to. There is
such
> a thing as dignity....even for a nerd.

You don't know the meaning of the word "dignity". Your continual
search for a way out shows what a complete loser you are.

One has to wonder just where you'd be in all this if it weren't for
me pressing you to get it done..... I already see your yellow tail
dragging between your legs, so please, show some dignity and stop
with the obvious "I Wnto Out NOW!" whimpering!
  

> > > Too bad little dicky. You wanted it now it's real, and if

real

> hurts then it hurts. You know I'll destroy you on the court and

you

> and your wimpy 'pro-bowling' is about as useless as it gets when
> facing someone like me. Face it--you're painted into a corner,

and

> all the squirming and squealing in the world won't get you out
until
> you're made a fool of in Minn.
>
> > More monkey boy bravado does not hide your obvious attempts to
get
> > out of a no-win dituation.
>
> Gee, sure doesn't look like quits now does it little dicky. It

only

> adds to your anxiety, but you asked for it!

It looks exactly like you are "quitting". Each and every time you

try to throw in an arbitrary condition it SMACKS of cowardice.

One clear condition vs. all your meaningless date/location changes
and amount of bet changes I accepted to get us this far: A Forfeiture
fee by 10 June. That's where the guts come in. You either have them
or you don't. It's 2-way (that means, little dicky, that if affects
me exactly as it affects you). Why, gee....everything else seems to
be agreed to!
  

> > Here's my first pass at an agreement. I can't wait to hear the
> crying:
>
> Without reading it yet, I'm wondering what site you pulled it
from....

I looked through many sites to find something "close". This was the
best I could find. It is not perfect but it's a good place to

start.

What part of "first pass" escapes your intellectual capabilities?

"First pass" is when someone takes a document and ammends it to fit
their liking. Not when they scramble throughout the Internet looking
for something that won't make them look silly to the other party
(which you failed at anyway).

>
> > JOINT AGREEMENT
> > This Joint Operating Agreement is dated as of this 7th day of
July,
> > 2006, between Rob Singer, hereinafter called "Player1" and Dick
> > Mustain, hereinafter called "Player2." Player1 and Player2 are
> > jointly referred to as the "Players."
> > WHEREAS, Player1 and Player2 desire to jointly conduct "the
> sporting
> > contest" under the terms and conditions set forth herein.
> > NOW, THEREFORE, in consideration of the premises and of the
mutual
> > agreements, representations, warranties, provisions and

covenants

> > herein, Player1 and Player2, intending to be legally bound,

agree

> as follows:
>
> HAHAHA! Warranties? Covenants?? When you pull a Contract, you

might

> want to read thru it first before presenting it to an expert.

What part of "first pass" escapes your intellectual capabilities?

>
> After reading the entire 'document' (one that has numerous
> inconsistencies for the event we're planning) you left out one
> important clause and inserted another that we never discussed.
First,
> as you've been told MANY times, there will be a forfeiture clause,

A forfeiture clause in inherent in the description. After signing

the contract there is NO way out. If either party does not show up
they lose. That is, in effect, a $40K forfeiture.

Maybe if you had had more experience with Civil Contracts you might
have understood this better. Forfeiture clauses are NEVER inherent
unless wording is included explicitly detailing the conditions. You
did not do that and, in fact, tried to incorporate a meaningless
medical clause to cover your tracks. Arbitrators require clarity in
cases of forfeiture. I'll write the clause if you'd like. And the
June 10th date is the required date for the funds to be escrowed, as
well as the start of the forfeiture period. Medical crap is out--it's
only a way for you to weasel out at the last moment. That's why I
insist on a forfeiture fee of at least $25k. No way out after June
10th under any circumstances--man made or Acts of God. Don't forget,
you're big mouth is on trial here too.

> and the deadline for that is 10 June.

The deadline is July 7. You asked me to do the contract and that is
it. Your obvious attempt to back out through claiming you need an
earlier date is laughable.

> You still haven't named the
> amount to be forfeited--$25k or $40k. And the nonsense about

either

> of us being medically unable to proceed is pure nonsense. Suck it
up
> like am. Or is this more likely your way out.....

The whole idea of the match is to find out who is best. If either

one

of us gets hurt between now and the match date, then we would never
know. As such, I allowed for a medical POSTPONEMENT and then only
with a licensed doctor's statement to back it up. There's no way

out

once the contract is signed. An injury would only delay the match.
This is very typical of sporting matches (like boxing) to have a
medical clause.

The contract as I showed it is a reasonable start. If you have
problems with the structure, wording, etc. then send those comments
to me via email and I will incorporate them. You can forget about
June 10th or removal of the medical postponement clause. If you

want

to use these items to back out, so be it. I'm sure everyone will

see

exactly what you're doing ... and what I predicted all along.

think about that. You blab that I'm looking for a way out by
including conditions when I've included a total of one, yet you keep
adding them and they get crazier and crazier by the minute. A MEDICAL
clause is ONLY for you to back out and I won't have any of that. You
want to wimp out, it'll cost you at least $25k. Again, you asked for
it and I'm serving it up.

···

--- In FREEvpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "rgmustain" <rgmustain@...> wrote:

Just as I predicted Rob has found a way to back out. I will not waste
any more time on this. Rob may think he's found a way to save face
but everyone who has been following this thread knows the truth. You
just have to laugh at his reasoning. Somehow he thinks setting an
arbitrary date gets him off the hook. Of course, what if we didn't
even propose a bet for another month. What would he do then? IF he
REALLY wanted to face me he wouldn't care when or where. Clearly, he
does care. That pretty much says it all.

The sad part is that Rob would have looked much better if he would
have just backed out when I disclosed I was a pro bowler. No one
would have blamed him for backing out of a bet he couldn't win.
Instead, he comes up with a bunch of nonsense that only makes him
look foolish.

We all know he will claim that I backed out, but here's the catch
Robbie my boy. My offer stands. This summer, next fall, next
winter, ... I will change the dates and times as necessary but the
meat of the bet will not change.

--- In FREEvpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "rsing1111" <rsinger1111@...>
wrote:

> > Just how much pussy-footing around will you go thru before
discover
> > there's no backing out? No matter how hard you try to. There is
> such
> > a thing as dignity....even for a nerd.
>
> You don't know the meaning of the word "dignity". Your continual
> search for a way out shows what a complete loser you are.

One has to wonder just where you'd be in all this if it weren't for
me pressing you to get it done..... I already see your yellow tail
dragging between your legs, so please, show some dignity and stop
with the obvious "I Wnto Out NOW!" whimpering!
  
> > > > Too bad little dicky. You wanted it now it's real, and if
real
> > hurts then it hurts. You know I'll destroy you on the court and
you
> > and your wimpy 'pro-bowling' is about as useless as it gets

when

> > facing someone like me. Face it--you're painted into a corner,
and
> > all the squirming and squealing in the world won't get you out
> until
> > you're made a fool of in Minn.
> >
> > > More monkey boy bravado does not hide your obvious attempts

to

> get
> > > out of a no-win dituation.
> >
> > Gee, sure doesn't look like quits now does it little dicky. It
only
> > adds to your anxiety, but you asked for it!
>
> It looks exactly like you are "quitting". Each and every time you
try to throw in an arbitrary condition it SMACKS of cowardice.

One clear condition vs. all your meaningless date/location changes
and amount of bet changes I accepted to get us this far: A

Forfeiture

fee by 10 June. That's where the guts come in. You either have them
or you don't. It's 2-way (that means, little dicky, that if affects
me exactly as it affects you). Why, gee....everything else seems to
be agreed to!
  
> > > Here's my first pass at an agreement. I can't wait to hear

the

> > crying:
> >
> > Without reading it yet, I'm wondering what site you pulled it
> from....
>
> I looked through many sites to find something "close". This was

the

> best I could find. It is not perfect but it's a good place to
start.
> What part of "first pass" escapes your intellectual capabilities?

"First pass" is when someone takes a document and ammends it to fit
their liking. Not when they scramble throughout the Internet

looking

for something that won't make them look silly to the other party
(which you failed at anyway).
>
> >
> > > JOINT AGREEMENT
> > > This Joint Operating Agreement is dated as of this 7th day of
> July,
> > > 2006, between Rob Singer, hereinafter called "Player1" and

Dick

> > > Mustain, hereinafter called "Player2." Player1 and Player2

are

> > > jointly referred to as the "Players."
> > > WHEREAS, Player1 and Player2 desire to jointly conduct "the
> > sporting
> > > contest" under the terms and conditions set forth herein.
> > > NOW, THEREFORE, in consideration of the premises and of the
> mutual
> > > agreements, representations, warranties, provisions and
covenants
> > > herein, Player1 and Player2, intending to be legally bound,
agree
> > as follows:
> >
> > HAHAHA! Warranties? Covenants?? When you pull a Contract, you
might
> > want to read thru it first before presenting it to an expert.
>
> What part of "first pass" escapes your intellectual capabilities?
>
> >
> > After reading the entire 'document' (one that has numerous
> > inconsistencies for the event we're planning) you left out one
> > important clause and inserted another that we never discussed.
> First,
> > as you've been told MANY times, there will be a forfeiture

clause,

>
> A forfeiture clause in inherent in the description. After signing
the contract there is NO way out. If either party does not show up
they lose. That is, in effect, a $40K forfeiture.

Maybe if you had had more experience with Civil Contracts you might
have understood this better. Forfeiture clauses are NEVER inherent
unless wording is included explicitly detailing the conditions. You
did not do that and, in fact, tried to incorporate a meaningless
medical clause to cover your tracks. Arbitrators require clarity in
cases of forfeiture. I'll write the clause if you'd like. And the
June 10th date is the required date for the funds to be escrowed,

as

well as the start of the forfeiture period. Medical crap is out--

it's

only a way for you to weasel out at the last moment. That's why I
insist on a forfeiture fee of at least $25k. No way out after June
10th under any circumstances--man made or Acts of God. Don't

forget,

you're big mouth is on trial here too.

>
> > and the deadline for that is 10 June.
>
> The deadline is July 7. You asked me to do the contract and that

is

> it. Your obvious attempt to back out through claiming you need an
> earlier date is laughable.
>
> > You still haven't named the
> > amount to be forfeited--$25k or $40k. And the nonsense about
either
> > of us being medically unable to proceed is pure nonsense. Suck

it

> up
> > like am. Or is this more likely your way out.....
>
> The whole idea of the match is to find out who is best. If either
one
> of us gets hurt between now and the match date, then we would

never

> know. As such, I allowed for a medical POSTPONEMENT and then only
> with a licensed doctor's statement to back it up. There's no way
out
> once the contract is signed. An injury would only delay the

match.

> This is very typical of sporting matches (like boxing) to have a
> medical clause.
>
> The contract as I showed it is a reasonable start. If you have
> problems with the structure, wording, etc. then send those

comments

> to me via email and I will incorporate them. You can forget about
> June 10th or removal of the medical postponement clause. If you
want
> to use these items to back out, so be it. I'm sure everyone will
see
> exactly what you're doing ... and what I predicted all along.

think about that. You blab that I'm looking for a way out by
including conditions when I've included a total of one, yet you

keep

adding them and they get crazier and crazier by the minute. A

MEDICAL

clause is ONLY for you to back out and I won't have any of that.

You

want to wimp out, it'll cost you at least $25k. Again, you asked

for

···

it and I'm serving it up.

>

Lying is your best trait....other than being chicken and claiming you
can do things you know you can't. You won't 'waste any more time on
this' because you're afraid to face me and you know it. You had one
condition to meet and you ran. Dates & locations have all been set by
you and were always accepted. Doesn't matter where or when--you'd
claim "medical out' either way, just as you did here. You are
pathetic, but predictable. And the 'pro-bowler' part--haha. An old
man who's fat and out of shape is supposed to be feared! Not by me,
that's for sure. You just didn't want me to see what a physical loser
you are. If "the offer stands" then you'll accept a 45-day forfeiture
clause and get on with it, and you won't be cheering now that you're
safely off the hook. The dates/locations are unimportant, yet you
continue to make it appear there's no agreement on them. Making up a
medical out clause just because you're a coward and a physical flop
doesn't cut it in any sporting contest. The 'meat' of the contest?
Ha! It's about not backing out, and the only way to pin someone down
that's a weasel like you is to get our funds escrowed 45 days in
advance. Because of you're backing out, you have confirmed that you
can't afford anything and never would have gone thru with this in the
first place. Like I said, you are pathetic. Only your being a sick
addict in gambling surpasses this low point. And the fact that you've
made your wife as sick as you.

Just as I predicted Rob has found a way to back out. I will not

waste

any more time on this. Rob may think he's found a way to save face
but everyone who has been following this thread knows the truth.

You

just have to laugh at his reasoning. Somehow he thinks setting an
arbitrary date gets him off the hook. Of course, what if we didn't
even propose a bet for another month. What would he do then? IF he
REALLY wanted to face me he wouldn't care when or where. Clearly,

he

does care. That pretty much says it all.

The sad part is that Rob would have looked much better if he would
have just backed out when I disclosed I was a pro bowler. No one
would have blamed him for backing out of a bet he couldn't win.
Instead, he comes up with a bunch of nonsense that only makes him
look foolish.

We all know he will claim that I backed out, but here's the catch
Robbie my boy. My offer stands. This summer, next fall, next
winter, ... I will change the dates and times as necessary but the
meat of the bet will not change.

--- In FREEvpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "rsing1111" <rsinger1111@>
wrote:
> > > Just how much pussy-footing around will you go thru before
> discover
> > > there's no backing out? No matter how hard you try to. There

is

> > such
> > > a thing as dignity....even for a nerd.
> >
> > You don't know the meaning of the word "dignity". Your

continual

> > search for a way out shows what a complete loser you are.
>
> One has to wonder just where you'd be in all this if it weren't

for

> me pressing you to get it done..... I already see your yellow

tail

> dragging between your legs, so please, show some dignity and stop
> with the obvious "I Wnto Out NOW!" whimpering!
>
> > > > > Too bad little dicky. You wanted it now it's real, and if
> real
> > > hurts then it hurts. You know I'll destroy you on the court

and

> you
> > > and your wimpy 'pro-bowling' is about as useless as it gets
when
> > > facing someone like me. Face it--you're painted into a

corner,

> and
> > > all the squirming and squealing in the world won't get you

out

> > until
> > > you're made a fool of in Minn.
> > >
> > > > More monkey boy bravado does not hide your obvious attempts
to
> > get
> > > > out of a no-win dituation.
> > >
> > > Gee, sure doesn't look like quits now does it little dicky.

It

> only
> > > adds to your anxiety, but you asked for it!
> >
> > It looks exactly like you are "quitting". Each and every time

you

> try to throw in an arbitrary condition it SMACKS of cowardice.
>
> One clear condition vs. all your meaningless date/location

changes

> and amount of bet changes I accepted to get us this far: A
Forfeiture
> fee by 10 June. That's where the guts come in. You either have

them

> or you don't. It's 2-way (that means, little dicky, that if

affects

> me exactly as it affects you). Why, gee....everything else seems

to

> be agreed to!
>
> > > > Here's my first pass at an agreement. I can't wait to hear
the
> > > crying:
> > >
> > > Without reading it yet, I'm wondering what site you pulled it
> > from....
> >
> > I looked through many sites to find something "close". This was
the
> > best I could find. It is not perfect but it's a good place to
> start.
> > What part of "first pass" escapes your intellectual

capabilities?

>
> "First pass" is when someone takes a document and ammends it to

fit

> their liking. Not when they scramble throughout the Internet
looking
> for something that won't make them look silly to the other party
> (which you failed at anyway).
> >
> > >
> > > > JOINT AGREEMENT
> > > > This Joint Operating Agreement is dated as of this 7th day

of

> > July,
> > > > 2006, between Rob Singer, hereinafter called "Player1" and
Dick
> > > > Mustain, hereinafter called "Player2." Player1 and Player2
are
> > > > jointly referred to as the "Players."
> > > > WHEREAS, Player1 and Player2 desire to jointly

conduct "the

> > > sporting
> > > > contest" under the terms and conditions set forth herein.
> > > > NOW, THEREFORE, in consideration of the premises and of the
> > mutual
> > > > agreements, representations, warranties, provisions and
> covenants
> > > > herein, Player1 and Player2, intending to be legally bound,
> agree
> > > as follows:
> > >
> > > HAHAHA! Warranties? Covenants?? When you pull a Contract, you
> might
> > > want to read thru it first before presenting it to an expert.
> >
> > What part of "first pass" escapes your intellectual

capabilities?

> >
> > >
> > > After reading the entire 'document' (one that has numerous
> > > inconsistencies for the event we're planning) you left out

one

> > > important clause and inserted another that we never

discussed.

> > First,
> > > as you've been told MANY times, there will be a forfeiture
clause,
> >
> > A forfeiture clause in inherent in the description. After

signing

> the contract there is NO way out. If either party does not show

up

> they lose. That is, in effect, a $40K forfeiture.
>
> Maybe if you had had more experience with Civil Contracts you

might

> have understood this better. Forfeiture clauses are NEVER

inherent

> unless wording is included explicitly detailing the conditions.

You

> did not do that and, in fact, tried to incorporate a meaningless
> medical clause to cover your tracks. Arbitrators require clarity

in

> cases of forfeiture. I'll write the clause if you'd like. And the
> June 10th date is the required date for the funds to be escrowed,
as
> well as the start of the forfeiture period. Medical crap is out--
it's
> only a way for you to weasel out at the last moment. That's why I
> insist on a forfeiture fee of at least $25k. No way out after

June

> 10th under any circumstances--man made or Acts of God. Don't
forget,
> you're big mouth is on trial here too.
>
> >
> > > and the deadline for that is 10 June.
> >
> > The deadline is July 7. You asked me to do the contract and

that

is
> > it. Your obvious attempt to back out through claiming you need

an

> > earlier date is laughable.
> >
> > > You still haven't named the
> > > amount to be forfeited--$25k or $40k. And the nonsense about
> either
> > > of us being medically unable to proceed is pure nonsense.

Suck

it
> > up
> > > like am. Or is this more likely your way out.....
> >
> > The whole idea of the match is to find out who is best. If

either

> one
> > of us gets hurt between now and the match date, then we would
never
> > know. As such, I allowed for a medical POSTPONEMENT and then

only

> > with a licensed doctor's statement to back it up. There's no

way

> out
> > once the contract is signed. An injury would only delay the
match.
> > This is very typical of sporting matches (like boxing) to have

a

> > medical clause.
> >
> > The contract as I showed it is a reasonable start. If you have
> > problems with the structure, wording, etc. then send those
comments
> > to me via email and I will incorporate them. You can forget

about

> > June 10th or removal of the medical postponement clause. If you
> want
> > to use these items to back out, so be it. I'm sure everyone

will

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--- In FREEvpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "rgmustain" <rgmustain@...> wrote:

> see
> > exactly what you're doing ... and what I predicted all along.
>
> think about that. You blab that I'm looking for a way out by
> including conditions when I've included a total of one, yet you
keep
> adding them and they get crazier and crazier by the minute. A
MEDICAL
> clause is ONLY for you to back out and I won't have any of that.
You
> want to wimp out, it'll cost you at least $25k. Again, you asked
for
> it and I'm serving it up.
>
>
> >
>

--- In FREEvpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "rsing1111" <rsinger1111@...>
wrote:

Lying is your best trait....other than being chicken and claiming

you

can do things you know you can't. You won't 'waste any more time on
this' because you're afraid to face me and you know it.

The offer is still open ... what does that tell everyone?

You had one condition to meet and you ran.

The offer is still open ... only one way to interrupt that. LMAO.

Dates & locations have all been set by
you and were always accepted. Doesn't matter where or when--you'd
claim "medical out' either way, just as you did here.

Sorry, wrong again. Having a medical clause is no different than in
any championship fight. Are you claiming that world title holders in
boxing are claiming a "medical out"?

You are
pathetic, but predictable. And the 'pro-bowler' part--haha. An old
man who's fat and out of shape is supposed to be feared! Not by me,
that's for sure.

Then why are you running so hard?

You just didn't want me to see what a physical loser
you are. If "the offer stands" then you'll accept a 45-day

forfeiture

clause and get on with it,

Nope. I won't accept idiotic clauses. These clearly show you are
afraid to face me. That is all I wanted to prove.

and you won't be cheering now that you're
safely off the hook. The dates/locations are unimportant, yet you
continue to make it appear there's no agreement on them.

Lie. Agreeing to a date and then insisting on other nonsense is what
demonstrates you are afraid to face me.

Making up a
medical out clause just because you're a coward and a physical flop
doesn't cut it in any sporting contest.

Just like championship boxers? You can't win this idiotic argument
because you have NOTHING to stand on.

The 'meat' of the contest?
Ha! It's about not backing out, and the only way to pin someone

down

that's a weasel like you is to get our funds escrowed 45 days in
advance.

LMAO. I think just about everyone can understand it doesn't matter
WHEN the money is escrowed, only that is happens before the matches.
Requiring anything else is ludicrous and clearly your way of backing
out. I already explained WHY I can't meet your date. You can NEVER
explain why an arbitrary date means anything ... other than your way
out.

Because of you're backing out, you have confirmed that you
can't afford anything and never would have gone thru with this in

the

first place. Like I said, you are pathetic. Only your being a sick
addict in gambling surpasses this low point. And the fact that

you've

made your wife as sick as you.

The offer is still open ... how sweet it is.

--- In FREEvpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "rsing1111" <rsinger1111@>
wrote:
>
> Lying is your best trait....other than being chicken and claiming
you can do things you know you can't. You won't 'waste any more

time on this' because you're afraid to face me and you know it.

The offer is still open ... what does that tell everyone?

You had one condition to meet and you ran.

The offer is still open ... only one way to interrupt that. LMAO.

You are one sorry old fool. "Open" to you means we both accept all
your date/date changes/location/betting amounts (which we have) but
when it comes to the meat of the bet you refuse to put up your funds
45 days in advance when I will. And you REFUSE a forfeiture clause
when I accept it! You do all the weeny things yet when it comes to
the money you wimp out! What does THAT tell you.....

> Dates & locations have all been set by
> you and were always accepted. Doesn't matter where or when--you'd
> claim "medical out' either way, just as you did here.

Sorry, wrong again. Having a medical clause is no different than in
any championship fight. Are you claiming that world title holders

in boxing are claiming a "medical out"?

And this is a world title-holder match? Hahaha! This is the only bet
I could get you to start to even think about after cowering away from
the vp bets. You got yourself into this, and that's really what this
is all about: Your big mouth. You need to have it stuffed and I'm
just the guy to do it. The only sure way to keep you from escaping is
a no way out Contract. If Mr. Big Deal "pro" (chuckle chuckle) Bowler
and Tennis court Terror fat old man says he can beat me no problem,
physical issues are non-existent. Play or be shamed. And you know why
you look so stupid running away? Because the clause affect me EXACTLY
THE SAME as it does you!

> You are pathetic, but predictable. And the 'pro-bowler' part--

haha. An old man who's fat and out of shape is supposed to be feared!
Not by me, that's for sure.

Then why are you running so hard?

I'm running AT you bozo.

> You just didn't want me to see what a physical loser
> you are. If "the offer stands" then you'll accept a 45-day
forfeiture clause and get on with it,

Nope. I won't accept idiotic clauses. These clearly show you are
afraid to face me. That is all I wanted to prove.

You're crying "No, No!" and I'm afraid?!....Sorry, but this clearly
shows you never had an intention or ability to put up the escrow.
Otherwise, with your big-mouthing that you could handily beat me in
both events, 45 days or 100 days wouldn't ever be an issue. Can you
imagine how cowardly you appear by me trying to get you to put up the
cash and agree to forfeiture as I do--while you whine and scamper
into the darkness crying foul?? I wonder....will you EVER be able to
make me look this much better a person than you again?

> and you won't be cheering now that you're
> safely off the hook. The dates/locations are unimportant, yet you
> continue to make it appear there's no agreement on them.

Lie. Agreeing to a date and then insisting on other nonsense is

what demonstrates you are afraid to face me.

Once again little dicky (and you look more yellow by the minute)
this 'nonsense' is nothing I'm imposing on you. It goes on both of us
exactly the same. I WANT to get the cash in escrow by the 10th. I
WANT to forfeit if I come up lame. In other words, I've got the money
and I've got the balls. Where's yours, Mr. All-Chinatown pro-bowler?

> Making up a medical out clause just because you're a coward and a

physical flop doesn't cut it in any sporting contest.

Just like championship boxers? You can't win this idiotic argument
because you have NOTHING to stand on.

Such a dumb analogy, but I understand. You're in a world of hurt over
this and you have to say something. But once again and as always, I'm
right here in your face while you scramble. Pro boxers are betting on
their careers when they sign on for a fight. The events are
commercialized, so no one in their right minds would allow an injured
fighter to forfeit or take a fall. Your big mouth, on the other hand,
has no support, and no one but you will lose money on it. And a big
part of that mouth says you are physically better than me. Really, it
should be ME then who is the one wimping out with the insistence of a
medical clause inclusion, right little dicky?? That's why you look so
yellow here, and that's why you're in a no-win scenario. Again.

> The 'meat' of the contest? Ha! It's about not backing out, and

the only way to pin someone down that's a weasel like you is to get
our funds escrowed 45 days in advance.

LMAO. I think just about everyone can understand it doesn't matter
WHEN the money is escrowed, only that is happens before the matches.

Not with a weasel like you. And with the things you always say about
me, one would EXPECT you'd want to get my money in escrow ASAP too.
But not if you plan on running, that's for sure.

Requiring anything else is ludicrous and clearly your way of

backing out. I already explained WHY I can't meet your date. You can
NEVER explain why an arbitrary date means anything ... other than
your way out.

Let's see....Oh, I remember. You "can't get the money together
because you're not home" right? BS. For $40k, and with computers,
overnight mail and phone passwords, you can get whatever you want
done. My money's on the East coast and I can get it within 2 days.
Any amount, any time. Face it. You're a flop in more ways than
physical. And June 10th is approx. 45 days prior to the event. That's
all it means and that's all it has to mean---other than pinning down
a cowardly weasel to finally walk the walk. I can see now what the
undeniable truth about little dicky really is. He doesn't have the
cash.

> Because of you're backing out, you have confirmed that you
> can't afford anything and never would have gone thru with this in
the first place. Like I said, you are pathetic. Only your being a

sick addict in gambling surpasses this low point. And the fact that

you've made your wife as sick as you.

The offer is still open ... how sweet it is.

After an e-mail of nothing but "It's still open but I can't come up
with the money" I can see why running is sweet to you. You can't lose
what you don't have. And I take something back. The most pathetic
part of your life isn't this mess you've gotten yourself into. It's
how you blame your wife for you addiction by saying she's an addict
who got YOU involved in vp. Pride. You know all about it in more ways
than one.

···

--- In FREEvpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "rgmustain" <rgmustain@...> wrote:

LMAO. Robbie the coward did exactly what I predicted all along. Does
anyone wonder why I didn't jump on getting the contract ready right
away. How sweet it is ...

PS. the bet is still open on my end ...

PSS. 45 days in advance is no issue. Let's see July 7 + 45 days gets
us to around 8/21. Are you ready little man? I'll just change the
date of the matches in the contract.

--- In FREEvpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "rsing1111" <rsinger1111@...>
wrote:

>
> --- In FREEvpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "rsing1111" <rsinger1111@>
> wrote:
> >
> > Lying is your best trait....other than being chicken and

claiming

> you can do things you know you can't. You won't 'waste any more
time on this' because you're afraid to face me and you know it.

> The offer is still open ... what does that tell everyone?

>You had one condition to meet and you ran.

> The offer is still open ... only one way to interrupt that. LMAO.

You are one sorry old fool. "Open" to you means we both accept all
your date/date changes/location/betting amounts (which we have) but
when it comes to the meat of the bet you refuse to put up your

funds

45 days in advance when I will. And you REFUSE a forfeiture clause
when I accept it! You do all the weeny things yet when it comes to
the money you wimp out! What does THAT tell you.....
>
> > Dates & locations have all been set by
> > you and were always accepted. Doesn't matter where or when--

you'd

> > claim "medical out' either way, just as you did here.
>
> Sorry, wrong again. Having a medical clause is no different than

in

> any championship fight. Are you claiming that world title holders
in boxing are claiming a "medical out"?

And this is a world title-holder match? Hahaha! This is the only

bet

I could get you to start to even think about after cowering away

from

the vp bets. You got yourself into this, and that's really what

this

is all about: Your big mouth. You need to have it stuffed and I'm
just the guy to do it. The only sure way to keep you from escaping

is

a no way out Contract. If Mr. Big Deal "pro" (chuckle chuckle)

Bowler

and Tennis court Terror fat old man says he can beat me no problem,
physical issues are non-existent. Play or be shamed. And you know

why

you look so stupid running away? Because the clause affect me

EXACTLY

THE SAME as it does you!

> > You are pathetic, but predictable. And the 'pro-bowler' part--
haha. An old man who's fat and out of shape is supposed to be

feared!

Not by me, that's for sure.

> Then why are you running so hard?

I'm running AT you bozo.

> > You just didn't want me to see what a physical loser
> > you are. If "the offer stands" then you'll accept a 45-day
> forfeiture clause and get on with it,

> Nope. I won't accept idiotic clauses. These clearly show you are
> afraid to face me. That is all I wanted to prove.

You're crying "No, No!" and I'm afraid?!....Sorry, but this clearly
shows you never had an intention or ability to put up the escrow.
Otherwise, with your big-mouthing that you could handily beat me in
both events, 45 days or 100 days wouldn't ever be an issue. Can you
imagine how cowardly you appear by me trying to get you to put up

the

cash and agree to forfeiture as I do--while you whine and scamper
into the darkness crying foul?? I wonder....will you EVER be able

to

make me look this much better a person than you again?

> > and you won't be cheering now that you're
> > safely off the hook. The dates/locations are unimportant, yet

you

> > continue to make it appear there's no agreement on them.
>
> Lie. Agreeing to a date and then insisting on other nonsense is
what demonstrates you are afraid to face me.

Once again little dicky (and you look more yellow by the minute)
this 'nonsense' is nothing I'm imposing on you. It goes on both of

us

exactly the same. I WANT to get the cash in escrow by the 10th. I
WANT to forfeit if I come up lame. In other words, I've got the

money

and I've got the balls. Where's yours, Mr. All-Chinatown pro-bowler?

> > Making up a medical out clause just because you're a coward and

a

physical flop doesn't cut it in any sporting contest.

> Just like championship boxers? You can't win this idiotic

argument

> because you have NOTHING to stand on.

Such a dumb analogy, but I understand. You're in a world of hurt

over

this and you have to say something. But once again and as always,

I'm

right here in your face while you scramble. Pro boxers are betting

on

their careers when they sign on for a fight. The events are
commercialized, so no one in their right minds would allow an

injured

fighter to forfeit or take a fall. Your big mouth, on the other

hand,

has no support, and no one but you will lose money on it. And a big
part of that mouth says you are physically better than me. Really,

it

should be ME then who is the one wimping out with the insistence of

a

medical clause inclusion, right little dicky?? That's why you look

so

yellow here, and that's why you're in a no-win scenario. Again.
>
> > The 'meat' of the contest? Ha! It's about not backing out, and
the only way to pin someone down that's a weasel like you is to get
our funds escrowed 45 days in advance.
>
> LMAO. I think just about everyone can understand it doesn't

matter

> WHEN the money is escrowed, only that is happens before the

matches.

Not with a weasel like you. And with the things you always say

about

me, one would EXPECT you'd want to get my money in escrow ASAP too.
But not if you plan on running, that's for sure.

> Requiring anything else is ludicrous and clearly your way of
backing out. I already explained WHY I can't meet your date. You

can

NEVER explain why an arbitrary date means anything ... other than
your way out.

Let's see....Oh, I remember. You "can't get the money together
because you're not home" right? BS. For $40k, and with computers,
overnight mail and phone passwords, you can get whatever you want
done. My money's on the East coast and I can get it within 2 days.
Any amount, any time. Face it. You're a flop in more ways than
physical. And June 10th is approx. 45 days prior to the event.

That's

all it means and that's all it has to mean---other than pinning

down

a cowardly weasel to finally walk the walk. I can see now what the
undeniable truth about little dicky really is. He doesn't have the
cash.

> > Because of you're backing out, you have confirmed that you
> > can't afford anything and never would have gone thru with this

in

> the first place. Like I said, you are pathetic. Only your being a
sick addict in gambling surpasses this low point. And the fact that
> you've made your wife as sick as you.

> The offer is still open ... how sweet it is.

After an e-mail of nothing but "It's still open but I can't come up
with the money" I can see why running is sweet to you. You can't

lose

what you don't have. And I take something back. The most pathetic
part of your life isn't this mess you've gotten yourself into. It's
how you blame your wife for you addiction by saying she's an addict
who got YOU involved in vp. Pride. You know all about it in more

ways

···

--- In FREEvpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "rgmustain" <rgmustain@> wrote:
than one.