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#21

I believe Dickens also wrote, "The law is a arse."

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On Fri, May 28, 2010 at 8:38 PM, Dave <haaljo@yahoo.com> wrote:

Well, maybe all businesses should be able to throw debtors in prison.
To quote Dickens: "Have we no prisons? Have we no poorhouses? Have we no
cemeteries?"

--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com <vpFREE%40yahoogroups.com>, "Cogno Scienti"
<cognoscienti@...> wrote:
>
> Failing to repay a private debt is not illegal. The casinos have co-opted
> the Nevada criminal justice system to be their collection agency by
> inventing the fiction that markers are checks. They are not, no matter
how
> much boilerplate claims they are.
>
> Casinos should have no more power than any other business to collect
debts.
>
> Cogno
>

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#22

I agree with most everything you wrote here. When I see an unjust law, my
response is more to change the law than to imprison people who break it, but
that's certainly a personal preference.

Cogno

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-----Original Message-----
From: vpFREE@yahoogroups.com [mailto:vpF…@…com] On Behalf
Of Luke Fuller
Sent: Saturday, May 29, 2010 3:29 PM
To: vpFREE@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [vpFREE] biggest loser…

Highly inaccurate. Highly.

Whether you like it or not, casino markers are treated as checks in
Nevada. Failure to repay a marker or having insufficient funds to
cover
the marker is fraud. That's illegal.

This law is not fiction. And, it allows the Clark County district
attorney's office to recover a casino's bad debts.

I agree that casinos *should* not have more power than any other
business to collect debts. But, how I feel about the law is
irrelevant.

This buy broke the law and should be held accountable for his actions.

On 5/28/10, Cogno Scienti <cognoscienti@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Failing to repay a private debt is not illegal. The casinos have co-
opted
> the Nevada criminal justice system to be their collection agency by
> inventing the fiction that markers are checks. They are not, no
matter
> how much boilerplate claims they are.
>
> Casinos should have no more power than any other business to collect
debts.
>
> Cogno
>
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: vpFREE@yahoogroups.com [mailto:vpF…@…com] On
Behalf
> > Of Luke Fuller
> > Sent: Friday, May 28, 2010 1:50 PM
> > To: vpFREE@yahoogroups.com
> > Subject: Re: [vpFREE] biggest loser…
> >
> > It completely irrelevant, whether they are an 'addict' or not.
> >
> > I don't care what their story is. If someone breaks the law
> > by passing bad checks or markers, they should pay the
> > consequences for their illegal actions. Period.
> >
> >
> > On 5/27/10, Dave <haaljo@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > > All of a sudden the player becomes a gambler because he's
addicted.
> > > But a drinker isn't an alcoholic when he's addicted?
> > > The propreitor of a business should not serve either addict.
> > > It's just plain greed just like the investment bankers.
> > >
> > >
> > > — In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, Luke Fuller <kungalooosh@…>
wrote:
> > > A casino that allows a gambler to gamble is not nearly the same
as a
> > > bartender serving drinks to a drunk.
> > >
> > > If the gambler (in the story) broke the law (by passing bad
> > > checks/markers),
> > > he should pay the consequences for his illegal actions.
>

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